If anyone wants to read or add any comments, the Computing.Net post I was referring to can be found here: http://www.computing.net/windows31/wwwboard/forum/10547.html Also, as for restoring Calmira downloads, did the old Calmira site have downloads for the older versions of Calmira, along with the newest one? Sometimes people prefer an older version, and I just realized I have copies of Calmira 3.1, the Calmira 3.11 and 3.12 updates, and Calmira 3.25, that I can send if anyone wants to upload these. -PC Freak -PC Freak's WebZone http://pcfwebzone.vze.com Calmira iWarp Program WebRing http://calmirawebring.vze.com -- To unsubscribe, send a message to ecartis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe calmira_tips" in the body. OR visit //freelists.org