Richard, >From: "Richard Hamilton-Frost" <rich@xxxxxxxxx> >I dont want to sound cynical, > >but this is where calmira ends, > >The site is gone, and the Calmira community is about to split into lots = of >little factions, I can't see any factions! I do see people who have the capacity and want to help out or make a difference. >Calmira has loads of unnoficial sub-sites, but this is where it all goes= to >pot, unless someone can pay the calmira.org hosting fee or get the dns >delegated to elsewhere, this community WILL DIE, and become unheard of, = The >old calmira.org was a bridge site so people could download the program >itself, or source etc, and find links to a majority of the sub-sites. > >Something needs to be done with the real calmira.org rather than = creating >more unoficial sites! I agree but given the nature of the web (rather transient) I doubt it matters whether we have a 'calmira.org' or a www.xxx\Calmira\ .. I have been rather frustrated with all the different sites over the past 4+ years but I guess its a bit like the 'wild west' here in WWW-Land..=20 There are lots of frontier type people in this list. Mostly I guess because we all remember the begining of the web. We have all been there. Done that. Got the T-Shirt :o) >Sorry to tread on toes Mike, but I believe something more efficient must= be >done rather than creating more sites. Lets see how people react. I know there will be lots of positive feeling. I am sure between us we can come to some agreement or share the task in hand. I for one would be happy if anyone took over the responsibility but I will also happily take responsibility. If anyone here can remember me I have had the same address for over 5 years and will happily promise my continued support. Most of all we are only talking about setting up a 'mirror' of some sorts. All I and most of us have to do is produce the product. I pay my ISP to keep it online! I won't even miss the 3 or 4Mb it might take. Win 16 might be dead but there are some classic that deserve our respect. Calmira is one. I am sure anyone who has used the Gutenberg Project knows what I am talking about. +++ Anyway. Erwin is the closest person I know that can give some advice on this? Erwin, How can I \ we go about this? Also someone mentioned paying for the Calmira.Org domain? My www.infoweaver.net domain costs me about =A37 per year. I will not pay for a server (because it does not matter what server Calmira is on) but I will happily put up 50 percent of the domain name cost for at least the next 12 months if it is reasonable. Regards Pete firststep#clara#net =3D=3D -- To unsubscribe, send a message to ecartis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe calmira_tips" in the body. OR visit //freelists.org