I've only heard of calmera a few days ago... I've never seen it. I don't know who makes it... I love the shell I have been using for the last four years... I got slammed onto this list. =\ But don't worry, I'm cool. Check my header. =) -- I suspect that it is significantly easier to become a proficient brain surgeon than a linux user. http://users.erols.com/alangrimes/ <my website. ####### Begin Eschelon Block ####### unabomber anthrax plutonium militia delta force ruby ridge atf batf waco oklahoma city assault rifle sog sof m-16 clinton marx crack m-60 c5 c7 mlk panthers FBI chemical weapons twa 800 roswell terrorist freedom To unsubscribe, send a message to listar@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe calmira_tips" in the body. OR visit http://freelists.dhs.org