Bob writes: -----Original Message----- From: AVTEKKI@xxxxxxx [mailto:AVTEKKI@xxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2004 6:30 PM To: calmira_tips@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: <CT> Re: calmira_tips Digest V5 #24 Bill, Thanks for the interesting and informative post on the Win95 info, but = what I=20 found most interesting was the part (above) about the two floppy OS=20 experiment you have done. Is it available anywhere, and what else can = you tell us=20 about it, or were you just pullin' our collective legs:-) ? BTW my Win95 floppy set is 31 disks (2 yellow, 10 orange, 10 blue, and 9 = green) including boot disk and disk 1 through 30 dated 12/31/95 9:50AM Thanks again, and awaiting your reply, Bob. Hi Bob, No leg pulling here! I have gone through *considerable* trouble trying = to duplicate my one floppy Win3.0 with Win95. I was introduced to PC = through the Mac way back when and adjusting to 8.3 filenames was = frustrating coming from that direction. This is probably where my = interest for long filenames began. I have also been interested in = reducing bloatware ever since I began reading the magazine PC Laptop; it = had a regular column called Making It Fit (or something like that) that = reduced programs to make them run on duo-floppy based laptops. I = continue to optimize what I can do with my Poqet palmtop (8086 512k RAM) = and other legacy laptops. (Toshiba T1000, the original laptop, and = Bondwell B200 are my other favorites, both sans hard drive.) The 2 floppy version of W95 (I call it Floppy95!) is close to core, but = I know it can be honed even further! Some non-core files are included = for the sake of aesthetics and functionality. I should say right now = that "functionality" at this level is extremely low, but it can run = Solitaire which I believes prove 32bit support. (Please let me know if = this is wrong assumption.) Excess features included are: using the = default Explorer as shell, a core bud of a registry, command.com = (actually unnecessary for boot directly into W95 but necessary for this = version). There is a non-core file that when removed, the familiar DOS = "ghost" B: drive becomes available again!! When booting this version, it requires one to go through an extensive = series of error screened messages, both at the DOS level and continues = in graphics mode. It's not pretty. I have an idea which may reduce = some, hopefully all of them. More experimentation is still in order. = Soon, I will want to create a table of what non-core files are required = (to be in place, or must be installed via registry) to support the = execution of a Win95 application. This is when would like others to = help build this table.=20 This honing project has shown me that there is a way of compiling the = original files directly from disk cabinets and booting to W95 without an = install! All the files share the same file creation date. (I called = this OEM95.) This 2 disk version requires 6 or 7Mb RAM; my previous successful floppy = version required even less RAM but spanned 3 floppies (1 boot/setup, 2 = Win program disks). This allow me to see a desktop on a Compaq 4Mb 386 = laptop. (Boot up took a glorious 12 minutes accounting for floppy-time = file access and file swapping.) The 3 floppy version used = unconventional extended floppy formatting, Maxi disk, but apparently = some legacy floppy drives may not be up to the task of reading these = disks. The 2 disk version uses regular floppy formatting. For those interested in this topic, you can contact me directly at my = personal email address, billmoy@xxxxxxxxxx The email registered with = the Calmira list is my work email and I'd rather not continue posting = until I re-register using my personal email account. =20 Bob, can you write to me with more info about how you use your 31 floppy = 95 set? What are the meanings to the colors? --Bill -- To unsubscribe, send a message to ecartis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe calmira_tips" in the body. OR visit //freelists.org