For all those who care, You can create users but when you try login it crashes and comes up with the message, "APPLICATION ERROR, Exception EGPFault in module CALMIRA.EXE at 0002:376B. General protection fault in module CALMIRA.EXE at 0002:376B. Tried on several machines instalations no hope of me working it out need help thanks in advance trev -- To unsubscribe, send a message to ecartis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe calmira_tips" in the body. OR visit //freelists.org