the first wave of updates are up on http://pfrostie.freeservers.com/cad-tastrafy yes, i know that there are links missing(i'm still working on it), but ayway. let me know if there are projects or references that i have overlooked or forgoten. if i did over look anyone please don't take offense, just let me know. if owners of any of the projects listed need me to make changes to the text/screenshots, then by all means send me the updates. -- Oh i've slipped the surly bonds of DOS and danced the skies on Linux silvered wings. http://pfrostie.freeservers.com/cad-tastrafy/ //www.freelists.org/webpage/cad-linux