On Fri, 2003-09-05 at 16:02, Sonny Damsted Clausen wrote: > [intruding!] > > I think (maybe!) if someone has used the name for a period of time before=20 > anyone else TM's it the TM is questionable [perhaps?]. > You're not intruding at all, fire away. You're completely right, but over in the UK at least, challenging a Registered Trade Mark costs £200. Hence if someone else registers it and demands we change our name, it will cost at least £200 to disprove them by proving we have been around longer. http://www.patent.gov.uk/tm/map.htm Registering one costs £200 too. You can use the term TM or Trade Mark without cost, but using the term "Registered Trade Mark", RTM or the round cirle thing with an R in it is illegal if you haven't registered it. (at least in the UK/Europe a.f.a.i.k.) I rang the company today but just got an answerphone. Legal issues suck, I'd rather spend effort on more constructive things but it needs to be done or things get complicated. Guy