the date may change but see if the file size matches. -rw-r--r-- 1 wine pfrostie 20069287 Aug 15 20:55 setupIcad.zip > I think it's 3.3 - how do you check for sure? -- Oh, I have slipped the surly bonds of DOS, and danced the skies on Linux silvered wings. http://pfrostie.freeservers.com/cad-tastrafy/ //www.freelists.org/list/cad-linux