Keith, Try this, It looks like they've hidden it.... http://www.opencascade.com/products/occ/download/ Regards, Ernie On Thursday 18 July 2002 08:26 pm, you wrote: > i donwnloaded the current exoTKAD package and now i'm needing the > opencascade binaries. on the opencascade site i only found source for a > development version. are there stable binaries somewhere that you could > point me to?