i've successfully installed and run the latest intellicad(3.3) from cadopia with the latest Xrossover-Office(1.2) from codeweavers. at one point in the installation it locked up and i had to kill and restart it with "killall winserver" and "killall wineloader", but after that everything was point and click. there did seem to be more error-popups at startup than i'm used to seeing with a tweaked wine installation, but this was almost a completely point and click installation. no config files were hacked or additional dlls downloaded. once up and running it seemed to be just as smooth as it has been in the past. BTW, the layer explorer will still crash it if you try to add a layer with it. use the layer command. -- Oh, I have slipped the surly bonds of DOS, and danced the skies on Linux silvered wings. http://pfrostie.freeservers.com/cad-tastrafy/ //www.freelists.org/list/cad-linux