> -----Original Message----- > From: marrandy [mailto:marrandy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] > > >I tried Debain first, and didn't even get X11 to run. > > >So, I really didn't learn to much, for > > >I couldn't 'play' with the system; > > >just couldn't get it to work. >=20 > That's a hardware problem. ie. there are so many variants=20 > of motherboard,=20 > graphics card, sound card, ethernet, mouse, scanner, printer,=20 > camera, usb, =20 > etc. Exactly. I was trying to install Linux on a P-233 IBM Thinkpad that my brother-in-law gave us for free. It is my 'play' computer, for at the time my main computer was being used by both my wife and I and I wouldn't want to break it by playing around with it. Deibain was harder to install, and I didn't know enough to be able to get X11 running. Also the first time I shut the computer down, I didn't know how. Totally new to Linux. So I just turned it off after I logged out, hoping for the best. Because Debain didn't use EXT3FS but instead EXT2 everything quickly got corrupted by my power-off & nothing worked next time I tried to use the laptop. :) But now that I've got Mandrake, and have been able to play and learn about Linux, I understand why EXT3 is better than EXT2 and why the little laptop croaked when I power-offed debain in a rude way. Mandrake found all the weird laptop hardware and *simply worked*. Red hat might have done the same, whatever, it doesn't matter. Just agreeing with ya! You have to find something that's accessible to your level, otherwise you won't get anywhere. Now I'm thinking of switching the home server to Debain or BSD... so it all comes around. :) Jeffrey McGrew Designer Huntsman Architectural Group 50 California Street, Seventh Floor San Francisco, California 94111 Telephone: 415.394.1212 Facsimile: 415.394.1222=20