>On 13/09/02, from the brain of Jeffrey McGrew tumbled: > > This is an over-simplified and confusing response, I know, but basically = > my 'vision' is for something like Revit; a easy-to-use, building-model, = > database based AEC software package; but that has the capability for a = > separate database module, customization with (or completely written in) = > python or some other computer language that Architects can actually = > understand and developed there own tools with, GPL-based, able to be = > extended to other disciples than just Architectural, and more. I'm still = > writing out a lot of these ideas, and will be making a web page at some = > point to center the project on if it's feasible. > > Thanks for all the great info! Keep them coming! > > Jeffrey McGrew Count me in man!! I've been working with AutoCad since R11 as an architect and now just focus on in-house customization. There is a lot of frustration with AutoCad because it is primarily a drafting tool. We got excited about Revit, but the acquisition, and the cost cooled our excitement. I downloaded a demo of Catia for a while. That is a cool product, but it is procedurally very foreign to the way architects work. ADT seems like the obvious choice but it is so complex for my guys. They have trouble with choices. It is a disturbing trend in OSS to try and ape the successful closed source projects. I understand that in order for normal people to consider switching, they need to feel comfortable, but it's hard to make progress that way. Now, for me, it's been a while since I have been actively drafting on billable time. This has been a great discussion, although I've only been on the list for a day or so. Can we list more directly just how a CAAD program would support the architectural design process. Your statement above is a great start, but there must be more. It must be more than changing the width in the door schedule and having the door change (although I admit that is very cool). -- Michael Montagne michael@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.themontagnes.com