Maybe I spoke too soon about it "working." I've been doing a little doodling tonight (thanks for the tip about the Show command), and after drawing a few simple parts I started to draw another. It's a wheel shown in profile (rectangle with a center line drawn through the short axis). Wine keeps barfing (three times now!) with: X Error of failed request: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter) Major opcode of failed request: 70 (X_PolyFillRectangle) Resource id in failed request: 0x3a00004 Serial number of failed request: 260551 Current serial number of output stream: 260654 I did four little drawings, saved them away, started a fifth and now this starts :( On Sat, 2003-08-09 at 21:16, phrostie wrote: > On Saturday 09 August 2003 20:52, you wrote: > > I'm using a Windows-less wine. I have not installed *any* > > Microsoft-generated libs. All I have is what came pre-installed with > > Red Hat 9. > > > > I'll be glad to mail you a picture. > > > got it! > wow that does not look anything like we have on AIX.