[bvipilots] Re: Need some landing VFR advice.
- From: Robert Cezar <robert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: bvipilots@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 6 May 2012 15:33:27 -0700
Hi,
REGARDING: Well at times Michelle will state a message on the lines, it’s
a good idel to start the approach checklist now.
She will only do this when she has started the Visual Approach. SHe will
never say that at 17,000 feet.
REGARDING: When the ATC tells me the runway assignment is when I normally
do the approach checklist.
Where in the documentation does it say that you should execute the approach
checklist when ATC provides you with the runway assignment? I need to fix
this error ASAP. Please advise.
REGARDING: Could it be because this was a VFR landing Robert?
This is not a VFR flight. All IYP-VA flights are IFR flights. The approach
into Chicago is an IFR Visual Approach. It is explained in excruciating
detail under the SimpleATC heading entitled:
Performing a Visual Approach at a Towered Airport
Are you unable to access that page? Please advise.
Regards,
Robert
On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 3:05 PM, Ron Kolesar <kolesar16417@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:
> Well at times Michelle will state a message on the lines, it’s a good
> idel to start the approach checklist now.
> Also, When the ATC tells me the runway assignment is when I normally do
> the approach checklist.
> I use the recognize approach clearance command then start a couple of the
> approach checklist items.
> Then use the contact tower command and usually I get switch over with no
> problems.
> Then just before land I should hear from the tower clear to land in this
> case runway 4l and I reply by saying recognize landing clearance.
> Could it be because this was a VFR landing Robert?
> Glad to help if, when and where I can.
> YUou know this.
> Ron
>
> Ron and current Leader Dog boz who states
> "that a service dog beats a cane paws down any day of the week."
>
> *From:* Robert Cezar <robert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> *Sent:* Sunday, May 06, 2012 5:51 PM
> *To:* bvipilots@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* [bvipilots] Re: Need some landing VFR advice.
>
> Hi,
>
> I have 2 main questions:
>
> QUESTION 1:
> I have tried to stress in about 10 different ways, that one conducts the
> approach checklist as you're approaching the runway about 2,000 feet AGL.
> So why are you executing the approach checklist at 17,000 feet? Where in
> the documentation does it state that you should conduct the approach
> checklist before the descent checklist has even completed, because I need
> to fix that error as soon as possible? Thanks for your help in this regards.
>
> QUESTION 2:
> Why are you contacting local traffic a Chicago Midway, when there's a
> Tower? I'm reading the documentation entitled:
>
> Performing a Visual Approach at a Towered Airport
>
> and it clearly states you are to contact the Tower. Please explain... I'm
> confused. Again, if the documentation is in error, please let me know ASAP.
> Thanks.
>
> Thanks a lot.
>
> Robert
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 2:23 PM, Ron Kolesar
> <kolesar16417@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>
>> Attached to this letter is my IYP VA flight fl 252 at a level cruising
>> alt of 350 from Denver to Chicago.
>> Please check out from the start of the descent to the ground.
>> Like I stated in my last letter.
>> I did everything Michelle and the ATC wanted me to do.
>> But for some reason this time around I could not use the Recognize
>> Landing approach, the contact tower command, nor the recognize landing
>> approach.
>> When on the ground I did hear Michelle with her normal statement about
>> exiting the runway shortly.
>> I did not hear we have eited the runway nor did the tower give me a
>> frequency to switch over to be able to contact the ground so that I could
>> taxi to the gate.
>> Any and all advice will be extreamly greatful.
>> Many thanks in advance.
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