So in short. Did I panic? So even though she said that she wasn’t controling the speed. If fact was she? Will wait to see the new flight deck booklet. Also, in the flight deck in the same neighborhood where you’re describing the forumla for a leveled cruising ALT, the link doesn’t work. Thanks. Ron and current Leader Dog boz who states "that a service dog beats a cane paws down any day of the week." From: Robert Cezar Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 3:41 AM To: bvipilots@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bvipilots] Re: IYPVA FL215 crashed on final approach into Protland. Ron, As Hadi indicated, when Michelle says she is no longer controlling the airspeed, that does not mean Michelle set the airspeed to zero. Rather, it means precisely what it says. Michelle is no longer altering the settings... the IAS remains at 240 knots where it was until the approach checklist is executed, at which time Michelle again controls the airspeed. As I stated numerous times, the Flight Deck Doc is in the final stages of clean up by Helen, and will contain a section that will explain all of this in excruciating detail... not that anyone will read it. <SMILES> Robert On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 12:32 AM, hadi remonion <hadirezaei@xxxxxxx> wrote: Why did you crash? were you descending too quick? if it was a jet, michel brings down the indicated airspeed to 240 (very good) on descend checklist On 8/24/2013 7:06 AM, Ron Kolesar wrote: Hi Robert. I was 25 miles out and Michele stated that she was no longer in control of the air speed. I tried the command to control the air speed but we crashed at 18 miles out anyways. Thought you had that fix. Thanks. Ron and current Leader Dog boz who states "that a service dog beats a cane paws down any day of the week." Blind and Visually impaired Pilots mailinglist //www.freelists.org/list/bvipilots To post a message to the list, send a message to bvipilots@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe, send a message to bvipilots-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx and put the word unsubscribe in the subject of your message. For other options such as digest, send a message to bvipilots-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx and put the word help in the subject of your message. Blind and Visually impaired Pilots mailinglist //www.freelists.org/list/bvipilots To post a message to the list, send a message to bvipilots@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe, send a message to bvipilots-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx and put the word unsubscribe in the subject of your message. For other options such as digest, send a message to bvipilots-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx and put the word help in the subject of your message. -- AOPA Member No: 06936977