[bvipilots] Re: Air accident Investigation needed.
- From: "Tony" <tonys_groups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bvipilots@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2011 21:04:25 -0000
Ah, hold on.
If she says do we wish to conduct fuel loading operations, is that the point
at which she does the calculation?
I was cruising along at Flight level 350.
Feet up, looking forward to all that sunshine in Singapore.
Then, oh dear.
Rattle joystick, flight over.
From: bvipilots-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bvipilots-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Jordan Gallacher
Sent: 21 November 2011 20:51
To: bvipilots@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bvipilots] Re: Air accident Investigation needed.
All factors the same except for weather since my weather is set to real
world with updates, I redid the flight as noted in my other post with the
fuel truck being called. Everything went normally. I really wish I knew
why but it seems like this is the only aircraft that fuel calculations
aren't accurate. I would suggest asking for the fuel quantity before
Michelle gets to asking if you need the fuel truck and go from there. What
was your altitude you were climbing through or at I may have missed it. I
have had the 747 fall out of the sky because of being overweight because of
fuel quite a bit, and I will be doing a flight from Baltimore to Grand
Rapids later. This will confirm or not confirm my suspicions because I will
try it without calling the fuel truck., and if I crash well then there we
go. If I don't crash, more work needs to be done with both of our last
flights.
Jordan
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From: bvipilots-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bvipilots-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Tony
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 2:28 PM
To: bvipilots@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bvipilots] Re: Air accident Investigation needed.
How did you determine that it was too much fuel which caused your plane to
crash?
From: bvipilots-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bvipilots-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Jordan Gallacher
Sent: 21 November 2011 20:19
To: bvipilots@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bvipilots] Re: Air accident Investigation needed.
Sounds like too much fuel, which is exactly what I had happen climbing
through Fl310. I stuck around trying to pull out of the stall I ended up
in, but nope eventually boom.
Jordan
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From: bvipilots-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bvipilots-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
<mailto:%5bmailto:bvipilots-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx%5d> On Behalf Of Tony
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 1:24 PM
To: bvipilots@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bvipilots] Re: Air accident Investigation needed.
I was so pissed off when the thing started to crash, when I got to about 5
thousand feet, I ended the flight, or bailed out, I wasn't going to wait for
the boom.
There are 2 sets of logs IYP creates, by default voice transcription, then
the ACARS log if you enable ACARS at the beginning of the flight.
If I'd stuck around for the boom, I could have taken a look at the ACARS
log, maybe.
Air accident investigators seem to think it might have been flying too high
with too much fuel, then either a strong tailwind or headwind.
I'll attempt the flight again.
From: bvipilots-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bvipilots-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
<mailto:%5bmailto:bvipilots-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx%5d> On Behalf Of Ron
Kolesar
Sent: 20 November 2011 14:43
To: bvipilots@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bvipilots] Re: Air accident Investigation needed.
Before exiting out of fsx they give you the opton of exiting the current
flight, continue to fly, and or to lok at the log.
Also, for we who fly via IYP.
If you go to your C drive then it's programs something with win 7, then to
ms games, then to ms flight simulator.
You'll see the IYP I belive its IYP Logs.
If you go in there, you'll see your black box report by date and time.
Just click on the one you want to read up on.
Besides that, I wouldn't be able to advise you.
Did you check the fuel tanks? SMILES.
Here's to the NTSB National Transpertaion safety board to the rescue.
Sorry.
From: Tony <mailto:tonys_groups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 7:05 AM
To: bvipilots@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bvipilots] Air accident Investigation needed.
Hi guys
I Posted this on the forum and haven't a clue why this might have happened.
Here's hoping that the mystery is resolved.
Whilst flying to Singapore from Heathrow last night, my 747 simply fell out
of the sky over Germany.
Luckily, I managed to survive.
It quite literally fell to earth, no warning, nothing I could do about it.
I've looked at the voice log, no clues there.
Is there anywhere else I could look to determine what might have gone wrong
T
Ron and current Leader Dog boz who states "that a service dog beats a cane
hands down any day of the week."
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