[burt-all] Re: Update

  • From: "Aaron Colby" <acolby@xxxxxx>
  • To: <burt-all@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 16:28:18 -0400

Haha, O.K. so we obviously have some differing viewpoints and I'm sure we
can come to a consensus so before the chain goes on any longer let me
suggest that other opinions on this topic be brought up on Monday and we'll
all talk then. See you 'round!

        Aaorn

-----Original Message-----
From: burt-all-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:burt-all-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Jonah Zimmerman
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 4:21 PM
To: burt-all@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [burt-all] Re: Update

Nick,

    I'm sorry to hear that Linde wasn't able to give us more help.  They 
were a great resource when we were figuring out the surprisingly complex 
fittings and connections that we needed, but I guess this sort of thing 
is just outside of their knowledge base.
    I'll have to disagree with you, however, on the point of going back 
to solid fuel and putting the hybrid engine aside.  The central focus of 
the rocket team since the last launch of the rocket has been integrating 
the hybrid with the aerospike, and I don't think there's enough reason 
for us to change that mission.  Hybrid propulsion is much much more 
complicated than a traditional solid-fuel propulsion system, but we 
should not let the roadblocks and obstacles that we encounter deter us.  
A very large amount of work has been done towards this end over the past 
few years, and to suddenly decide to switch our direction I believe 
would be premature.
    The only thing standing in the way of a static test at this moment 
is the solenoid valve, and this problem could be resolved in the near 
future if we decide to purchase one from Norton (the place we got our 
current one from).  It may not be the most cost-efficient solution, but 
it would be the fastest, and would allow us to start testing soon.
    It would also be unwise to forget about Greg's rocket, which (Greg, 
you can correct me here) is currently being designed as a 
solid-propulsion rocket with a traditional valve, and could later be 
integrated with an aerospike.  I don't know the exact time frame of the 
small rocket, but it should doubtless be much shorter than that of the 
larger rocket.
    I could go on in this manner for pages, but we all know how much 
Seth loves these endless chains of emails, so I propose that we delay 
further discussion on this topic until the monday night meeting.  I know 
that Nick won't be able to make it, but it sounds like Eddie is on the 
same page and he should be able to argue in Nick's place.

See you all monday

-Jonah


Nicholas Doucette wrote:
> Hey everyone,
>
>     Here's the scoop:  Eddie and I went over to Linde Gas today with 
> the solenoid to get some help with our situation. The guy there said 
> he has never seen one that size nor does he know where we can get one. 
> They only deal with smaller solenoids and flow systems. On our way 
> back Eddie and I talked at length about what the next step should be 
> as we progress towards a static test. We concluded the most reasonable 
> and practical path to take is to completely ignore a Hybrid system for 
> the time being. In our proposal and in our goals for this year we 
> stated we want to test a Hybrid-Aerospike rocket engine. Our best bet 
> right now is to ignore the hybrid and focus on a solid aerospike 
> engine. This way we can test the efficiency of an aerospike nozzle to 
> that of a conventional nozzle at low altitudes (high atm. pressure). 
> Once we have data that shows this relationship AND a working aerospike 
> engine, we can then integrate the hybrid system into the rocket. Going 
> along this path will allow us to achieve more in the next semester or 
> two. We can make our own solid engine (or buy one) and the machining 
> of the aerospike would not take nearly as along as the plumbing system 
> for a static test never mind the actual launching of a hybrid rocket. 
> Eddie will fill you in some more at Monday's meeting about what we 
> think would be a good path to take right now (I have lab that night).
>
> Send some thoughts about this option and any other options.
>
> - Nick (sorry for the long ass email)
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