[bsidesclt] Re: BSides planning

  • From: Hpilking <h.pilkington@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "bsidesclt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <bsidesclt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2012 14:21:57 -0500

What would you consider "a uniquely CLT venue?" what are your reqs/costs? 

On Aug 26, 2012, at 1:32 PM, Chris Teodorski <chris.teodorski@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Pong.
> It's been quiet although Jon and I did a bit of discussing after
> Hackers on a Boat.
> He offered to investigate his office space as a location. It doesn't
> fit in with my desire to have a uniquely "charlotte" venue, it does
> however fit in with my realization that without a venue we can't go
> much further.   My understanding is that it's IBM's old campus,
> somewhere in the north part of Charlotte.
> Also, I sent an email to Zack Mayo to ask him if he would mind
> discussing the posibillity of the Charlotte ISSA supporting the
> effort, either financially or advertising to their membership, etc.  I
> have not heard from him....
> That's my update....its slow going.
> Chris
> On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 1:57 PM, Heather Pilkington
> <h.pilkington@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> ping
>> On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 10:14 AM, Chris Teodorski
>> <chris.teodorski@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> Heather,
>>> 1. Righ
>>> 2. Shmoo I assume will be that least weekend of Jan (25-27), so
>>> potentially.
>>> 3. I didn't get here till Feb, and coming from PA -- I wouldn't call
>>> it winter, but I'll let the locals with more experience than me answer
>>> that one.
>>> 4. I assume the majority of the audience will be CLT locals, with a
>>> few dedicated folks being willing to travel.  That seems to be the
>>> case with most local Bsides events.
>>> 5. When we did BsidesPGH, we really struggled with the anchor speaker
>>> from out of town vs local talent.  I can argue both sides of that.
>>> Last year Dave Kennedy spoke and Chris Nickerson was at the event
>>> (coincidentally he was doing a pentest in Pittsburgh that week), but
>>> he was as low key as he can be -- he was just an attendee.
>>> 6. Honestly I don't have a sense of that -- we managed to pack 120ish
>>> people into BsidesPGH.  I assume we can do similar here.  How many
>>> folks show up for ISSA events?  In Pittsburgh ISSA was a huge part of
>>> our sponsorship and how we got word of the event out to the community.
>>> 7. Again, BSidesPGH, we had 2 rooms -- the speaker and the chill out
>>> area (which was outside).  What they found to be very successful at
>>> BSidesPGH was to allow long social breaks between speakers -- they
>>> found that with the time -- people actually talked to one another.  I
>>> know at least one person landed a job out of connections made there
>>> this year.
>>> So basically, my feeling is this -- we decide on the type of venue
>>> (local flair, brew pub, teepee, men's restroom) we want and then we
>>> start looking to see what is available.
>>> On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 9:37 AM, Hpilking <h.pilkington@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> Bsides Chicago was also in a bar, fwiw, the bar scene is popular. What
>>>> reasons can you think of that a bar wouldn't be preferable because it's a
>>>> bar?
>>>> But, is pursuit of local flavor putting the cart before the horse?
>>>> Shouldn't we have some way of screening the venues before deciding?
>>>> Questions I had (and I know not all of these have answers, necessarily,
>>>> but some definitely impact venue)
>>>> 1) You don't want to schedule this in parallel with another event to
>>>> boost attendance, right?
>>>> 2) Is Shmoocon a conflict with this date range?
>>>> 3) Is weather a concern? (availability of venue, accessibility of venue)
>>>> - I didn't make it through a winter in CLT so I don't know what to expect.
>>>> 4) Who is the target audience? CLT locals, NC/SC regionals only, or
>>>> other? How will you reach them?
>>>> 5) Is the timing/locale attractive to that target? What is going to make
>>>> people want to come? What about having a couple of anchor speakers/trainers
>>>> (if you want to go that route) first?
>>>> 6) How many people do you plan on having (venue sizing)
>>>> 7) How many rooms do you need? (Bsides Chicago had one room with a
>>>> downstairs bar and an outside patio. They split their room into four spaces
>>>> using scrims. One room was for staff/speakers, one for chill out/lockpick
>>>> village, one for the main track, and one for classes. It was freezing
>>>> outside and sucked completely to stand out there. But, it was so loud
>>>> inside, it was nearly impossible to have a conversation. There was so much
>>>> sound bleed from the speaking track and the teaching track that dueling
>>>> microphones happened. The venue had stationary speakers that couldn't be
>>>> moved to fix it. Thotcon and BsidesLV also had this problem. Except they 
>>>> had
>>>> multiple rooms. But you had to walk through the main speaker track to get 
>>>> to
>>>> any of the other rooms, and it was large enough that people stopped to 
>>>> talk,
>>>> drowning out the speakers.) I would recommend there be room for people to
>>>> socialize separately from people who want to present, GSO was a small
>>>> Bsides, but it was less social than some other events b/c people were 
>>>> mostly
>>>> politely quiet during presos (it was also hard to hear and impossible to 
>>>> see
>>>> from the back of the room).
>>>> 8) What kinds of accommodations can they provide? Do they have screens,
>>>> speakers, mics, power, wireless...

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