[bsidesclt] Re: BSides planning
- From: Heather Pilkington <h.pilkington@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: bsidesclt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2012 21:46:30 -0400
No. It was a network reference. The list had been quiet, so I sent a "ping"
to see if anyone was alive.
On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 9:27 PM, Jon Molesa <rjmolesa@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Those are some good ideas. Are you the same Ping of Social Engineering
> Podcast? I'm too lazy to look up names?
>
> --
> Jon Molesa
> rjmolesa@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> On Sunday, August 26, 2012 at 8:38 PM, Heather Pilkington wrote:
>
> I am not suggesting the conference space is bad. I think it's good. But, I
> have not been involved in any of the talk up to this point, and I don't
> know whether other alternatives have been considered, or if the conference
> space is the way you have decided to go.
>
> Since it sounds like the conference space is not finalized (or might have
> cost considerations), here are some other suggestions:
>
> Victory Lane indoor Karting center
> http://www.eventective.com/USA/North+Carolina/Charlotte/49368/Victory-Lane-Indoor-Karting-Center.html
>
> Carowinds (they have some meeting areas - unsure about cost)
>
> There are multiple bars and restaurants that I can think of which would
> have space - you would have to provide your own audio/visual though, and
> you would want to get the day rates rather than the evening rates.
>
> You could rent a sizeable camp site for the speedway and do an outdoor
> event (would have to aim for scheduling for weather - but you could get
> outdoor awnings, etc) http://www.charlottemotorspeedway.com/camping/ They
> also have tours of the speedway if people are interested in that sort of
> thing, plus a NASCAR hall of fame tour.
>
> You could see if the hacker space would let you have the meeting there.
>
> ...
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 8:17 PM, Chris Teodorski <
> chris.teodorski@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> I don't know what is "uniquely" Charlotte either -- I was hoping some
> of the long time residents could help me with that -- racing is really
> the only theme that seems to really run throughout the city. But like
> I said, having a workable venue trumps any desires I have for a
> "unique" venue.
>
> Chris
>
>
>
>
> > Chris,
> >
> > The company I work for is okay with BSides use of our meeting rooms and
> > guest areas. I contacted our landlord about their auditorium. They have
> > leased out the current one and construction, as well as pricing, won't be
> > available November. I'm not real sure what is uniquely Charlotte. I
> haven't
> > been here long enough to know. I will ask some of my colleagues what they
> > think would qualify. My company is willing to sponsor as well.
> >
> > http://knowclassic.com
> >
> > --
> > Jon Molesa
> > rjmolesa@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > On Sunday, August 26, 2012 at 2:32 PM, Chris Teodorski wrote:
> >
> > Pong.
> >
> > It's been quiet although Jon and I did a bit of discussing after
> > Hackers on a Boat.
> >
> > He offered to investigate his office space as a location. It doesn't
> > fit in with my desire to have a uniquely "charlotte" venue, it does
> > however fit in with my realization that without a venue we can't go
> > much further. My understanding is that it's IBM's old campus,
> > somewhere in the north part of Charlotte.
> >
> > Also, I sent an email to Zack Mayo to ask him if he would mind
> > discussing the posibillity of the Charlotte ISSA supporting the
> > effort, either financially or advertising to their membership, etc. I
> > have not heard from him....
> >
> > That's my update....its slow going.
> >
> > Chris
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 1:57 PM, Heather Pilkington
> > <h.pilkington@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > ping
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 10:14 AM, Chris Teodorski
> > <chris.teodorski@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Heather,
> >
> > 1. Righ
> >
> > 2. Shmoo I assume will be that least weekend of Jan (25-27), so
> > potentially.
> >
> > 3. I didn't get here till Feb, and coming from PA -- I wouldn't call
> > it winter, but I'll let the locals with more experience than me answer
> > that one.
> >
> > 4. I assume the majority of the audience will be CLT locals, with a
> > few dedicated folks being willing to travel. That seems to be the
> > case with most local Bsides events.
> >
> > 5. When we did BsidesPGH, we really struggled with the anchor speaker
> > from out of town vs local talent. I can argue both sides of that.
> > Last year Dave Kennedy spoke and Chris Nickerson was at the event
> > (coincidentally he was doing a pentest in Pittsburgh that week), but
> > he was as low key as he can be -- he was just an attendee.
> >
> > 6. Honestly I don't have a sense of that -- we managed to pack 120ish
> > people into BsidesPGH. I assume we can do similar here. How many
> > folks show up for ISSA events? In Pittsburgh ISSA was a huge part of
> > our sponsorship and how we got word of the event out to the community.
> >
> > 7. Again, BSidesPGH, we had 2 rooms -- the speaker and the chill out
> > area (which was outside). What they found to be very successful at
> > BSidesPGH was to allow long social breaks between speakers -- they
> > found that with the time -- people actually talked to one another. I
> > know at least one person landed a job out of connections made there
> > this year.
> >
> > So basically, my feeling is this -- we decide on the type of venue
> > (local flair, brew pub, teepee, men's restroom) we want and then we
> > start looking to see what is available.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 9:37 AM, Hpilking <h.pilkington@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> >
> > Bsides Chicago was also in a bar, fwiw, the bar scene is popular. What
> > reasons can you think of that a bar wouldn't be preferable because it's a
> > bar?
> >
> > But, is pursuit of local flavor putting the cart before the horse?
> > Shouldn't we have some way of screening the venues before deciding?
> >
> > Questions I had (and I know not all of these have answers, necessarily,
> > but some definitely impact venue)
> >
> > 1) You don't want to schedule this in parallel with another event to
> > boost attendance, right?
> >
> > 2) Is Shmoocon a conflict with this date range?
> >
> > 3) Is weather a concern? (availability of venue, accessibility of venue)
> > - I didn't make it through a winter in CLT so I don't know what to
> expect.
> >
> > 4) Who is the target audience? CLT locals, NC/SC regionals only, or
> > other? How will you reach them?
> >
> > 5) Is the timing/locale attractive to that target? What is going to make
> > people want to come? What about having a couple of anchor
> speakers/trainers
> > (if you want to go that route) first?
> >
> > 6) How many people do you plan on having (venue sizing)
> >
> > 7) How many rooms do you need? (Bsides Chicago had one room with a
> > downstairs bar and an outside patio. They split their room into four
> spaces
> > using scrims. One room was for staff/speakers, one for chill out/lockpick
> > village, one for the main track, and one for classes. It was freezing
> > outside and sucked completely to stand out there. But, it was so loud
> > inside, it was nearly impossible to have a conversation. There was so
> much
> > sound bleed from the speaking track and the teaching track that dueling
> > microphones happened. The venue had stationary speakers that couldn't be
> > moved to fix it. Thotcon and BsidesLV also had this problem. Except they
> had
> > multiple rooms. But you had to walk through the main speaker track to
> get to
> > any of the other rooms, and it was large enough that people stopped to
> talk,
> > drowning out the speakers.) I would recommend there be room for people to
> > socialize separately from people who want to present, GSO was a small
> > Bsides, but it was less social than some other events b/c people were
> mostly
> > politely quiet during presos (it was also hard to hear and impossible to
> see
> > from the back of the room).
> >
> > 8) What kinds of accommodations can they provide? Do they have screens,
> > speakers, mics, power, wireless...
> >
> >
>
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