[bsidesclt] Re: BSides planning

  • From: Jon Molesa <rjmolesa@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: bsidesclt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2012 21:27:28 -0400

Those are some good ideas. Are you the same Ping of Social Engineering Podcast? 
I'm too lazy to look up names? 

-- 
Jon Molesa
rjmolesa@xxxxxxxxxxxxx


On Sunday, August 26, 2012 at 8:38 PM, Heather Pilkington wrote:

> I am not suggesting the conference space is bad. I think it's good. But, I 
> have not been involved in any of the talk up to this point, and I don't know 
> whether other alternatives have been considered, or if the conference space 
> is the way you have decided to go.
> 
> Since it sounds like the conference space is not finalized (or might have 
> cost considerations), here are some other suggestions:
> 
> Victory Lane indoor Karting center 
> http://www.eventective.com/USA/North+Carolina/Charlotte/49368/Victory-Lane-Indoor-Karting-Center.html
> 
> Carowinds (they have some meeting areas - unsure about cost)
> 
> There are multiple bars and restaurants that I can think of which would have 
> space - you would have to provide your own audio/visual though, and you would 
> want to get the day rates rather than the evening rates.
> 
> You could rent a sizeable camp site for the speedway and do an outdoor event 
> (would have to aim for scheduling for weather - but you could get outdoor 
> awnings, etc) http://www.charlottemotorspeedway.com/camping/ They also have 
> tours of the speedway if people are interested in that sort of thing, plus a 
> NASCAR hall of fame tour.
> 
> You could see if the hacker space would let you have the meeting there. 
> 
> ... 
> 
> 
> On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 8:17 PM, Chris Teodorski <chris.teodorski@xxxxxxxxx 
> (mailto:chris.teodorski@xxxxxxxxx)> wrote:
> > I don't know what is "uniquely" Charlotte either -- I was hoping some
> > of the long time residents could help me with that -- racing is really
> > the only theme that seems to really run throughout the city.  But like
> > I said, having a workable venue trumps any desires I have for a
> > "unique" venue.
> > 
> > Chris
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > Chris,
> > >
> > > The company I work for is okay with BSides use of our meeting rooms and
> > > guest areas. I contacted our landlord about their auditorium. They have
> > > leased out the current one and construction, as well as pricing, won't be
> > > available November. I'm not real sure what is uniquely Charlotte. I 
> > > haven't
> > > been here long enough to know. I will ask some of my colleagues what they
> > > think would qualify. My company is willing to sponsor as well.
> > >
> > > http://knowclassic.com
> > >
> > > --
> > > Jon Molesa
> > > rjmolesa@xxxxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:rjmolesa@xxxxxxxxxxxxx)
> > >
> > > On Sunday, August 26, 2012 at 2:32 PM, Chris Teodorski wrote:
> > >
> > > Pong.
> > >
> > > It's been quiet although Jon and I did a bit of discussing after
> > > Hackers on a Boat.
> > >
> > > He offered to investigate his office space as a location. It doesn't
> > > fit in with my desire to have a uniquely "charlotte" venue, it does
> > > however fit in with my realization that without a venue we can't go
> > > much further. My understanding is that it's IBM's old campus,
> > > somewhere in the north part of Charlotte.
> > >
> > > Also, I sent an email to Zack Mayo to ask him if he would mind
> > > discussing the posibillity of the Charlotte ISSA supporting the
> > > effort, either financially or advertising to their membership, etc. I
> > > have not heard from him....
> > >
> > > That's my update....its slow going.
> > >
> > > Chris
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 1:57 PM, Heather Pilkington
> > > <h.pilkington@xxxxxxxxx (mailto:h.pilkington@xxxxxxxxx)> wrote:
> > >
> > > ping
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 10:14 AM, Chris Teodorski
> > > <chris.teodorski@xxxxxxxxx (mailto:chris.teodorski@xxxxxxxxx)> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Heather,
> > >
> > > 1. Righ
> > >
> > > 2. Shmoo I assume will be that least weekend of Jan (25-27), so
> > > potentially.
> > >
> > > 3. I didn't get here till Feb, and coming from PA -- I wouldn't call
> > > it winter, but I'll let the locals with more experience than me answer
> > > that one.
> > >
> > > 4. I assume the majority of the audience will be CLT locals, with a
> > > few dedicated folks being willing to travel. That seems to be the
> > > case with most local Bsides events.
> > >
> > > 5. When we did BsidesPGH, we really struggled with the anchor speaker
> > > from out of town vs local talent. I can argue both sides of that.
> > > Last year Dave Kennedy spoke and Chris Nickerson was at the event
> > > (coincidentally he was doing a pentest in Pittsburgh that week), but
> > > he was as low key as he can be -- he was just an attendee.
> > >
> > > 6. Honestly I don't have a sense of that -- we managed to pack 120ish
> > > people into BsidesPGH. I assume we can do similar here. How many
> > > folks show up for ISSA events? In Pittsburgh ISSA was a huge part of
> > > our sponsorship and how we got word of the event out to the community.
> > >
> > > 7. Again, BSidesPGH, we had 2 rooms -- the speaker and the chill out
> > > area (which was outside). What they found to be very successful at
> > > BSidesPGH was to allow long social breaks between speakers -- they
> > > found that with the time -- people actually talked to one another. I
> > > know at least one person landed a job out of connections made there
> > > this year.
> > >
> > > So basically, my feeling is this -- we decide on the type of venue
> > > (local flair, brew pub, teepee, men's restroom) we want and then we
> > > start looking to see what is available.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 9:37 AM, Hpilking <h.pilkington@xxxxxxxxx 
> > > (mailto:h.pilkington@xxxxxxxxx)> wrote:
> > >
> > > Bsides Chicago was also in a bar, fwiw, the bar scene is popular. What
> > > reasons can you think of that a bar wouldn't be preferable because it's a
> > > bar?
> > >
> > > But, is pursuit of local flavor putting the cart before the horse?
> > > Shouldn't we have some way of screening the venues before deciding?
> > >
> > > Questions I had (and I know not all of these have answers, necessarily,
> > > but some definitely impact venue)
> > >
> > > 1) You don't want to schedule this in parallel with another event to
> > > boost attendance, right?
> > >
> > > 2) Is Shmoocon a conflict with this date range?
> > >
> > > 3) Is weather a concern? (availability of venue, accessibility of venue)
> > > - I didn't make it through a winter in CLT so I don't know what to expect.
> > >
> > > 4) Who is the target audience? CLT locals, NC/SC regionals only, or
> > > other? How will you reach them?
> > >
> > > 5) Is the timing/locale attractive to that target? What is going to make
> > > people want to come? What about having a couple of anchor 
> > > speakers/trainers
> > > (if you want to go that route) first?
> > >
> > > 6) How many people do you plan on having (venue sizing)
> > >
> > > 7) How many rooms do you need? (Bsides Chicago had one room with a
> > > downstairs bar and an outside patio. They split their room into four 
> > > spaces
> > > using scrims. One room was for staff/speakers, one for chill out/lockpick
> > > village, one for the main track, and one for classes. It was freezing
> > > outside and sucked completely to stand out there. But, it was so loud
> > > inside, it was nearly impossible to have a conversation. There was so much
> > > sound bleed from the speaking track and the teaching track that dueling
> > > microphones happened. The venue had stationary speakers that couldn't be
> > > moved to fix it. Thotcon and BsidesLV also had this problem. Except they 
> > > had
> > > multiple rooms. But you had to walk through the main speaker track to get 
> > > to
> > > any of the other rooms, and it was large enough that people stopped to 
> > > talk,
> > > drowning out the speakers.) I would recommend there be room for people to
> > > socialize separately from people who want to present, GSO was a small
> > > Bsides, but it was less social than some other events b/c people were 
> > > mostly
> > > politely quiet during presos (it was also hard to hear and impossible to 
> > > see
> > > from the back of the room).
> > >
> > > 8) What kinds of accommodations can they provide? Do they have screens,
> > > speakers, mics, power, wireless...
> > >
> > >
> > 
> 

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