[brailleblaster] Re: The problems with the save settings dialog
- From: "John J. Boyer" <john.boyer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: brailleblaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 20:43:17 -0500
I think that if the user does not have Braille support they should not
be offered anything having to do with Braille. This would only create
confusion. However, they might see a message box telling them to install
Braille support.
John
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 02:26:59AM +0100, Michael Whapples wrote:
> I agree with what you say, therefore should we go further and say that
> the user should never be offered a choice of one option?
>
> If the user has not got Braille support then should the dialog for
> offering saving text or text and Braille be presented as they only have
> one option to choose from?
>
> Michael Whapples
> On 26/07/2012 02:23, John J. Boyer wrote:
> >Translation and anything associated with it should be disabled if
> >Braille support is not available. My intention was that if you didn't
> >have Braille support you could still edit in the Daisy view.
> >
> >John
> >
> >On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 12:51:59AM +0100, Michael Whapples wrote:
> >>OK, I notice something else which lead to me having a different
> >>conclusion.
> >>
> >>If one does not have Braille support enabled (I hadn't got liblouisutdml
> >>set up properly) then the text only radiobutton is selected by default,
> >>but once I had Braille support working no radiobutton has focus by
> >>default when both are available. This meant that at the beginning it
> >>appeared like I could gain access in one direction.
> >>
> >>However, adding a group does improve matters a bit, it means access can
> >>be achieved in one direction (like with the checkboxes).
> >>
> >>Michael Whapples
> >>On 26/07/2012 00:43, Vic Beckley wrote:
> >>>Michael,
> >>>
> >>>There was a problem when using checkboxes too. As long as you were in the
> >>>controls it worked fine. As soon as you would tab or shift-tab past the
> >>>last
> >>>control you would be in this limbo land and tabbing would do nothing. You
> >>>were probably in this shell object you describe. The radio buttons are
> >>>not
> >>>the entire problem.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Best regards from Ohio, U.S.A.,
> >>>
> >>>Vic
> >>>E-mail: vic.beckley3@xxxxxxxxx
> >>>
> >>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>From: brailleblaster-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>[mailto:brailleblaster-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael
> >>>Whapples
> >>>Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 7:18 PM
> >>>To: brailleblaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>Subject: [brailleblaster] The problems with the save settings dialog
> >>>
> >>>Hello,
> >>>The problem with selecting the radiobuttons for to save text or text and
> >>>Braille, it appears what the problem is that between the "Cancel" button
> >>>and the radiobuttons pressing tab or shift tab will take focus to the
> >>>shell object and then the focus will not move anywhere by using
> >>>tab/shift tab.
> >>>
> >>>I have looked at trying to set the tab order, this doesn't work,
> >>>essentially one gets the problem where the tab order cycles round.
> >>>
> >>>Not quite sure why this happens when using radiobuttons but not
> >>>checkboxes. I have tried using Group objects to group radiobuttons, but
> >>>this does not solve the issue.
> >>>
> >>>While I am at it though, I noticed that the dialog does not have a shell
> >>>as its parent, I would have expected the document window to be its
> >>>parent.
> >>>
> >>>Also, may be this should be a proper dialog, you may want to read the
> >>>Dialog javadoc for SWT which shows creating custom dialogs (IE. one
> >>>which works in the way like the FileDialog provided by SWT, where it
> >>>will give you a result when calling open() to show the dialog).
> >>>
> >>>Here is a link to the Dialog javadoc from SWT,
> >>>http://help.eclipse.org/indigo/index.jsp?topic=%2Forg.eclipse.platform.doc.i
> >>>sv%2Freference%2Fapi%2Forg%2Feclipse%2Fswt%2Fwidgets%2Fpackage-summary.html
> >>>
> >>>Michael Whapples
> >>>
> >>>
>
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John J. Boyer; President, Chief Software Developer
Abilitiessoft, Inc.
http://www.abilitiessoft.com
Madison, Wisconsin USA
Developing software for people with disabilities
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