[botswanapredatorforum] Re: Report on Setata Fence

  • From: "Hendrik Jerling" <hendrik@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <botswanapredatorforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 15:28:56 +0200

Re: [botswanapredatorforum] Re: Report on Setata FenceDear Ladies and Gents

With respect you are all writing a lot around the issues but the reality is 
there are lions leaving the game parks and coming to the farms killing cattle 
and game on the farms. ( I can only speak for the eastern Ghanzi farms 
bordering the CKGR) We captured at least 15 lions over the past few years at 
our own cost some of the lions were given to DWNP to be released again in the 
CKGR and others were kept in captivity by one Game farmer (with permission and 
monitored so no danger of canned industry by DWNP)
Last week there were another lion killing 3 cattle which we (very dangerously 
and at our cost) captured again which DWNP released again somewhere in the 
CKGR. We could have shot these lion which would have been mush cheaper and 
safer but we decided for the capture option as farmers are not going out to 
kill all predators we just want to earn a living like everyone else so it is 
easy to sit somewhere reading half of what is happening and then writing long 
letters but not solving the problem.So please come forward with concrete 
solutions to the problems that will benefit all parties.

Hendrik Jerling 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Richard White 
  To: botswanapredatorforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 4:02 PM
  Subject: [botswanapredatorforum] Re: Report on Setata Fence

  Dear Dereck,
  I won't reply in detail but there a few points I would like to make:

  you say:
    can we assume that you can throw some cash at someone and hope that the 
correct education will sort of  find itself?
  People value what contributes to their livelihood and may take care of it if 
they have some proprietorial rights over it. This is just a simple rule of 
economics and easily verified with a little observation:  e.g. ask the question 
"why do people value and care for their livestock?"

  you also say:
    we have a program in Kenya and plans for one in Rwanda where the educators 
are Maasai, (and Rwandan) who are very much part of the community
  Well are they? The cultural gap between urbanised Batswana whose livelihood 
is salary based and rural Batswana whose livelihood depends on natural 
resources is enormous. Consider the parallel comparison of kugels and bagels 
from Jo'burg and your average Boer farmer. They may speak the 'same' language 
and belong to the same tribe but the cultural gap is vast.

  and again:
    are we to write off predators in an ever increasing pattern as livestock 
increases, (as it will) because in essence, livestock and predators are 
unlikely to co exist.
  That maybe the case. What predators require is very large tracts of protected 
land upon which they can maintain viable populations. However, the experience 
of the developed countries suggests that there will not be endless unlimited 
expansion of crop-land or livestock because urbanisation will limit human land 
demands in time. What we do need to do is to focus on raising peoples per 
capita income rapidly and ensuring child survival as these two factors together 
encourage people to limit family size and thus population growth.

    Can you get it to me? I am happy to assist in this, my limited  
intelligence not withstanding.
  No sorry, a copy has gone to the VP and the Minister of Environment Wildlife 
and Tourism. There are risks in allowing additional copies into the open and I 
have taken enough already.


  Richard White


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