[bookshare-discuss] Re: txt files
- From: Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2004 19:26:28 -0700 (PDT)
That's been my experience, too. Now I just validate a
txt document in and save i in text and put the page
number without a page break. The last book I did the
page numbers were at the bottom, so I put a line space
before and after the page number and put a note in the
long synopsis (which I had to write because the
scanner didn't) that page numbers wer at the bottom of
the page. If the page numbers are at the top, I'll do
the same thing but note that the page numbers are at
the top of the page.
Cindy
-- Silvara <silvara@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> The purpose of my message was not to discourage
> people from submitting txt
> files that they already scanned. I agreed that we
> should not lose access to
> such books. The reason I posted was to encourage
> people to save new scans as
> rtf, if *at all possible.* I have used Microsoft
> Word, Word Pad and even
> tested out note pad. There is an option in Word XP
> to save txt with lay out.
> However, when I tried to save, it said it needs a
> converter. So apparently
> this converter is not automatically installed. I now
> use K1000 as my editor
> and it keeps formatting in txt files.
>
> I just conducted a little test with txt. I created
> the file in Word and
> saved it as plain txt which is the only option that
> it allows. I then opened
> this same file in K1000, all the page breaks were
> gone. I then put in the
> page breaks and saved it in txt. I opened this file
> in Word and the page
> breaks were there. I edited it and saved it. I again
> opened the file in
> K1000 and the page breaks were gone again. This
> suggests to me that if the
> file is initially saved in plain txt without
> formatting, it doesn't matter
> what program is used to open the file.
>
> Sorry for the long post.
>
> Grace
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <talmage@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 3:32 PM
> Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: txt files
>
>
> > Hi silvara,
> >
> > Typically it is not a capability issue that the
> end user is able to
> > select. It is either, or not, a feature of the
> program the validator
> > chooses to use to access the file. When you say
> you have experienced not
> > seeing any page breaks in txt files, I would have
> to ask, what program
> have
> > you been using to access the txt file? As far as
> the preferred format,
> yes
> > it is obvious that Bookshare prefers RTF files,
> but if that means you
> don't
> > wish to have books that people have scanned in the
> past to be submitted,
> > I'd have to disagree.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > At 03:14 PM 10/2/2004, you wrote:
> > >Even if txt has the capability of saving
> formatting attributes such as
> page
> > >breaks, as a validator I have not seen people
> using such capabilities.
> The
> > >reality is that we see txt files without any
> formatting attributes. There
> is
> > >a difference between actuality and reality.
> Additionally, even though
> > >bookshare accepts other formats, the preferred
> format is rtf. Also if a
> > >submitter's txt file is capable of saving
> formatting he or she should
> > >consider that the validator may not be able to do
> the same, and save the
> txt
> > >as rtf for bookshare. I understand that this is
> not an absolute
> requirement,
> > >but I have come across many txt files that left a
> lot to be desired.
> > >
> > >Just my $0.02, for whatever its worth.
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: <talmage@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > >To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 10:01 AM
> > >Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: Advance copies
> of books
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi Cindy,
> > > >
> > > > Some of these txt books that are showing up
> are because I and others
> are
> > > > probably going through our old collections of
> scans looking for
> suitable
> > > > books for submissions.
> > > > Before Bookshare came along, and before I got
> a newer copy of
> Openbook, I
> > > > always saved to txt and wasn't too worried
> about the publisher's info,
> > >book
> > > > jacket, and maintaining format.
> > > > What I do now from time to time is go back
> through my collection and
> try
> > >to
> > > > fill out series if I have a book that has the
> necessary info and isn't
> in
> > > > bad shape.
> > > > I know a lot of people don't like txt files,
> because there is a
> > > > misconception that txt files don't maintain
> page breaks, italics,
> > > > etc. They can in fact contain these
> attributes, but it is a factor of
> > >what
> > > > you are using to edit the file. I.e. word
> processors are notoriously
> bad
> > > > at keeping them, because they want to compel
> you to use their native
> > > > format, and don't want to spend too much time
> on imported formats.
> The
> > > > best way to validate a txt file is to find a
> text editor for your
> computer
> > > > platform that maintains these attributes, and
> doesn't immediately
> reformat
> > > > the file to some other format like RTF.
> > > >
> > > > HTH
> > > >
> > > > Dave
> > > >
> > > > At 09:51 PM 10/1/2004, you wrote:
> > > > >-Marissa,
> > > > >
> > > > >You bring up a good point that to my
> knowledge (and
> > > > >I've been here about one and one-half or two
> years, I
> > > > >think) hasn't been mentioned here before.
> Maybe it
> > > > >just doesn't come up very often. That is,
> that advance
> > > > >copies (proof, or preview) of books can't be
> sold. I
> > > > >gather from your post that that would hold
> true for
> > > > >Bookshare as well as for any bookstore.
> > > > >
> > > > >Since I live in L.A., I we get donations of
> advance
> > > > >copies of books that were sent to movie
> producers and
> > > > >agents, and we can't sell them. Also, I've
> noticed on
> > > > >paperbacks the notice that book with the
> covers torn
> > > > >off aren't supposed to be sold; they
> supposedly were
> > > > >extras that should have been returned to the
> publisher
> > > > >and for which, presumably, the bookseller was
> > > > >re-imbursed. I wonder if some of those books
> have been
> > > > >scanned and that's why sometimes scanners
> have trouble
> > > > >finding the publisher and copyright info.
> > > > >
> > > > >Cindy
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
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