[bookshare-discuss] Re: scanning help

  • From: "traci" <season@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 03:45:52 -0700

Thanks John, Mary, Lyn and anyone else I may have missed. I was so frustrated 
and spending half an hour with Freedom Scientific only increased my 
iritability. 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: John Immarino 
  To: bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 9:07 PM
  Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: scanning help


  Traci,

  I just want to reiterate Mayrie's message.  I've found that it is most 
important to keep the book pressed against the scanner glass as completely as 
possible.  Don't rely on the weight of the book or the scanner cover to keep 
the book in contact.  I use both palms to press down on the book during 
scanning, but am careful not to move the book at all while pressing.  I use an 
HP Photosmart C4280, which is a really cheap printer/scanner, and have gotten 
excellent results with this method.  Keep trying--it's just a matter of finding 
what works best for you.

  John 

  On 3/17/2010 6:42 PM, Mayrie ReNae wrote: 
    Hi Traci,

    I feel your pain!  Part of the problem you're having with this book is that 
it's so huge!  The thicker the book, as I'm sure you've noticed, the harder it 
is to flatten the book onto the scanner.  The junk you're seeing is simply the 
shadow of the cleft between the pages showing up as junk in the scan.  I 
suggest trying to scan with your light source totally constant.  Sometimes this 
helps.  For me, what this means is scanning at night in a dark room.  Sounds 
totally crazy, right?  Probably it is.  But sometimes it helps.  

    For your scanning errors, I'd suggest using gray scale, but I don't know if 
OpenBook has this option as I scan using different software.  


     Also, many of your scanning errors can be gotten rid of using the find and 
replace dialogue, but not always.  I realize that with your "flick" example, 
you can't globally replace it with the word you suggest it should be, because 
"flick" is indeed an actual word, and might actually need to be where it 
appears sometimes.  But if you're getting the kinds of errors that can be fixed 
with a global find and replace, for instance, "diese" for "these" or "diumb" 
for "thumb" you can cut down on the number of corrections you'll need to make 
by hand.

    As for your particular book, if you own it, and don't mind beating it up, 
I'd try opening it to its fullest, even perhaps even going as far as to making 
the covers touch each other in quite a few places throughout the book and 
holding it like that for a bit. This will make pressing the book flat on the 
scanner less difficult.  Now, if the book is not yours, or you want it to look 
nice and pretty, this won't work.

    Just some ideas.  Does it help to know that what you're experiencing isn't 
unique to you?  And we all feel your pain and frustration when these things 
happen.  Unfortunately, sometimes, scans just come out needing a lot of TLC.

    Good luck, and my sympathy is definitely with you.

    Mayrie



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    From: traci [mailto:season@xxxxxxxxxxx] 
    Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 5:41 AM
    To: bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Subject: [bookshare-discuss] scanning help


    hello everyone.
    i am at a loss and ready to quit. it's bad enough that books I submit sit 
there for months ready to be proofed but then to try so hard to scan them and 
get garbage??? I have the resolution up to 400 dpi, using omni font page since 
fine reader didn't work. i have the contrast set to black on white and have ocr 
corrections enabled. my scanner is an all in one, a lexmark pro 205 series and 
I'm using open book 8. What am I doing wrong? the f word in the books read as 
flick and i have the ocr correction going yet it always scans as that. had 
usually scans as ha: (ha followed by a colon). and this is what i hate most. 
when scanning a book and it's toward the middle of it, i get partial pages no 
matter how i try and flatten the pages into a smooth roll. this scanner is a 
flat bed so I can only load from the left side as the fax machine is directly 
below the bed and the copier is the actual scanner's top. 
    Another thing I get a lot of is the first word in a line might scan as 1111 
or 4111 followed by thirteen to fourteen spaces and then the actual begining of 
the sentence. Then right smack dab in the mddle of the sentence, you'll get a 
word like ire followed by thirteen spaces and then a real word. for example:
    I glanced up at her in utter disbelief  t :ire:..              and shook my 
head disgustedly. 
    No this crazy woman wasn't going to disrespect me in my own house after 
everything we hav:  been through.
    1111             But she was and .:\tdd             all I could feel was 
contempt. 
    If there is no hope for this, please advise me what to look for in a good 
scanner--dpi, page recognition, scanner brand, flatbed vs hand scanner. Please 
help. I would like to share books but at this rate I may just end up reading 
and proofing. This book "Chances" is over 500 pages long and it's a huge 
undertaking that I wouldn't mind if the scanner would only stop puking all over 
the pages.
    Thanks

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