[bookshare-discuss] Re: bookshare process.
- From: Stacey Robinson <stacey.robinson1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 16:39:55 -0500 (EST)
I download the .brf files and either listen to them using my voicenote qt or
use my Braillelite to read them.
Stacey and Amigo
> ----- Original Message -----
>From: "Shelley L. Rhodes" <juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 14:28:52 -0400
>Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: bookshare process.
>I download the books in the .bra format, as I have a braillenote that I
>listen to them on.
>Others download the daisy ones, and either user the Victor player available
>on the site, or else use a scanning program like Open Book or Kurzweil to
>read them, or they use the .html file and save it as a text file or what
>have you and use a screen reader, or a text to speech program, or even a
>screen magnifier to read them that way.
>Lots of choices.
>Shelley L. Rhodes and Judson, guiding golden
>juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>Guide Dogs For the Blind Inc.
>Graduate Advisory Council
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>The vision must be followed by the venture. It is not enough to
>stare up the steps - we must step up the stairs.
> -- Vance Havner
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx
>To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 2:06 PM
>Subject: [bookshare-discuss] bookshare process.
>Thanks for that info, Shelley. I was especially
>interested in #6. Sometimes when I tell people about
>bookshare (trying to get more volunteers) they want to
>know how you all "read" the books. I had thought maybe
>the readers converted, but now I see that you can
>download in whatever form you want to read. What
>format are books in that people listen to?
>Cindy
>-- "Shelley L. Rhodes" <juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>wrote:
>> Hey Lisa, and lissy, and all.
>> A book can be fixed and resubmitted.
>> In fact I do this all the time.
>> So some clarification.
>> What Lisa was asking about was a book in the
>> collection.
>> Here is the process a new submission goes through.
>> 1. Submitted by a scanner.
>> 2. downloaded by a validator, and checked over, or
>> edited at the validators
>> discression.
>> 3. Uploaded by validator and goes into the
>> Administration approval pile.
>> 4. Administrator approves the book,
>> 6. File goes through a bunch of automated programs,
>> including a braille
>> translator, a header stripper, and a Daisy
>> converter, to make the files we
>> see on the site, is also compacted, and put into the
>> .bks format with the
>> password.
>> Now, this is what you can do if you want to fix up a
>> copy that you see lots
>> of errors in.
>> 1. Rescan and submitt a new copy.
>> 2. Download the Daisy copy of the book, save the
>> .html file as a .rtf. Then
>> edit the file, and resubmit as a "new copy".
>> And make sure to remove your fingerprint, all the
>> copyright stuff at the top
>> first.
>> But I hope it clears it up a bit.
>> I replace books all the time, excellent for fair
>> copies, or good copies if i
>> am interested in the book and have the time.
>> Hope this helps.
>> Shelley L. Rhodes and Judson, guiding golden
>> juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Guide Dogs For the Blind Inc.
>> Graduate Advisory Council
>> www.guidedogs.com
>> The vision must be followed by the venture. It is
>> not enough to
>> stare up the steps - we must step up the stairs.
>> -- Vance Havner
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Estelnalissi" <airadil@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 1:28 AM
>> Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: the magic of
>> thinking big.
>> Dear Lisa, Shelly and All,
>> Lisa, your questions are exactly about Book Share
>> procedures I don't
>> understand. I'm glad you are asking and hope to
>> learn the answers along with
>> you.
>> Shelley, do you mean that once a book is validated
>> it can't be fixed anymore
>> even if it has many errors and a reader is willing
>> to improve it? I'm just
>> trying to understand the way things are done and I'm
>> asking you because I
>> gather you use braille, as I do, and that you have a
>> lot of experience.
>> I'm still too confused and haven't contributed a
>> word, yet, but I'll get
>> there.
>> Thanks in advance.
>> Always Turning Pages,
>> Lissi.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Lisa Hall" <lhall10@xxxxxxxxxxx
>> To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 11:14 AM
>> Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: the magic of
>> thinking big.
>>> Hi everyone,
>>> I also have downloaded the daisy version of the
>> book as well. I also have
>>> the html version of the book that the unpack
>> utility made for me as well.
>>> If
>>> I have to do all the corrections to this book,
>> I'll need to find a sighted
>>> reader since I have the print book and will need
>> to probably create the
>>> .txt
>>> version of the file before submitting the book
>> once the correction is
>>> made.
>>> I believe there is a lot of work to do. I'll need
>> to dig up the file I
>>> received when I first joined bookshare a couple of
>> years ago I think.
>>> I'll probably need to get in touch with whoever is
>> in charge of
>>> coordinating
>>> whatever needs to be done.
>>> Lisa Hall,
>>> Consultant for Adaptive Technology for Northwest
>> Vista College, a college
>>> of
>>> the Alamo Community College District.
>>> Web page: http://home.satx.rr.com/lisahall
>>> Phone: (210) 829-4571
>>> E-mail and MSN I.D.: lhall10@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Shelley L. Rhodes
>> [mailto:juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 10:00 AM
>>> To: bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: the magic of
>> thinking big.
>>> Braille files, are run through Duxbury before
>> being put onto the site.
>>> If you would like to refine the .bra copy and
>> resubmit it, then the
>>> Braille
>>> will be correct, but the file, is that way when it
>> is sent to the
>>> translator
>>> and then put onto the site. Human intervention
>> besides the validation of
>>> the original .rtf file is not done, as frankly it
>> would take a long time,
>>> smile.
>>> Shelley L. Rhodes and Judson, guiding golden
>>> juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Guide Dogs For the Blind Inc.
>>> Graduate Advisory Council
>>> www.guidedogs.com
>>> The vision must be followed by the venture. It is
>> not enough to
>>> stare up the steps - we must step up the stairs.
>>> -- Vance Havner
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Lisa Hall" <lhall10@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>> To: "'bookshare-discuss list'"
>> <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 3:26 AM
>>> Subject: [bookshare-discuss] the magic of thinking
>> big.
>>> Hi everyone,
>>> I am reading a book called the Magic of Thinking
>> Big by David Joseph
>>> Schwartz that was submitted by Monica Svopa.
>>> According to the web site on bookshare, there is
>> no ISBN submitted, no
>>> synopsis submitted, and no rating submitted which
>> I think is optional. It
>>> says that the book is excellent with little or no
>> errors, however, when
>>> reading the grade 2 braille file, there are
>> translating errors. There are
>>> no
>>> beginning and ending computer Braille code,
>> however, it was written in
>>> Grade
>>> 2 Braille which is incorrect if you want to follow
>> BANA standards. Does
>>> anyone know if this book have been validated and
>> check for errors in
>>> proofreading? The page number and chapter numbers
>> run close together and
>>> there is no paragraph indicators from what I can
>> tell. There are letter
>>> sign
>>> indicators in the document which should not be
>> there. I don't know if any
>>> of
>>> the headings have been centered in print at all. I
>> am reading the book
>>> with
>>> PacMate BX400 and PM440 braille display. Does
>> anyone know what Braille
>>> translation program was used to process these
>> books? I haven't check the
>>> daisy format of the book to see where paragraphs
>> are put in.
>>> As some of you know, I am a certified Literary
>> Braille Transcriber as of
>>> April 29, 2004 after submitting my trial
>> manuscript back in March 2004. I
>>> made a score of 90 out of 100 which is a passing
>> grade. The minimum score
>>> is
>>> 80 points or better. As of May 9, 2005, I walked
>> across stage with
>>> standing
>>> ovation wearing cap and gown being the first blind
>> person to go through
>>> the
>>> Braille Textbook Transcriber Program at Northwest
>> Vista College. I am now
>>> doing a temporary 6 week contract with the school
>> writing policies and
>>> procedures on students who request materials in
>> alternative format. The
>>> school have had some combination of books obtained
>> from the publishers and
>>> some that we had to scan ourselves. Scanning and
>> cleaning the book is a
>>> very
>>> time-consuming process when a student is
>> requesting material faster than
>>> we
>>> can process them. What have some of you done to
>> process them. Do you have
>>> the work contracted out to a certified Braille
>> transcriber?
>>> I have been busy updating my web site and will be
>> working with faculty and
>>> staff on web accessibility, accessing pdf
>> documents and getting pdf
>>> documents tagged properly so that it can be more
>> accessible to people with
>>> disabilities.
>>> Anyone is welcome to view my web site and it's
>> listed below my signature.
>>> Thanks.
>>> Lisa Hall,
>>> Consultant for Adaptive Technology for Northwest
>> Vista College, a college
>>> of
>>> the Alamo Community College District.
>>> Web page: http://home.satx.rr.com/lisahall
>>> Phone: (210) 829-4571
>>> E-mail and MSN I.D.: lhall10@xxxxxxxxxxx
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