Hey Amy, Check out the below for a really cheap alternative to Jaws. O.k. so for a free alternative to Jaws, but of course you get what you pay for. http://www.nvaccess.org/nvda/ And this one is just a reader of text, but is really low priced: http://www.readplease.com/ Shelley L. Rhodes B.S. Ed, CTVI and Judson, guiding golden juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx Guide Dogs For the Blind Inc. Graduate Alumni Association Board www.guidedogs.com Dog ownership is like a rainbow. Puppies are the joy at one end. Old dogs are the treasure at the other. Carolyn Alexander ----- Original Message ----- From: "agoldringtajalli" <agoldringtajalli@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 1:23 PM Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: advertising and information Enough with the complaints' For me most of the equipment discussed falls under the "show me more or what I can't have" category but I still like to know what is available and dream about which would fill my needs even if they are out of my price range. I really don't care if they might be considered "ads" as long as the people who can use them know what is out there. Amy -------Original Message------- From: Rui Date: 2/25/2007 6:06:25 PM To: bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: advertising and information hi: This was blatent advertising for a specific product and a specific distributer of said product. Where it crosses the line for me is the for-profit component. People have brought up the accessibility of other mp3 player/digital voice recorders in the past, but they weren't selling them. ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian Miller To: bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 3:22 PM Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: advertising and information I am reluctant to open the door to advertising on this listserv, and I assume the bookshare folks will be the ultimate artibors of what passes muster, but I will say that I was glad to see this particular post about the Olympus as it is a product that one can use in association with Bookshare. Perhaps this should be the criterion for what is appropriate for the listserv -- products that may be of direct use with Bookshare may be mentioned, perhaps without utilizing explicit ad campaigns from the companies or distributors themselves. Brian M ----- Original Message ----- From: Rick Roderick To: bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 10:56 AM Subject: [bookshare-discuss] advertising and information Hi everyone, I realize that some will disagree with me, but I saw nothing wrong with Pat s posting about the recorder. I think that as long as it is something that can benefit Bookshare members in enjoying the service, I want to hear about it. On the other hand, if someone indiscriminately sends information on a myriad of products, that is totally inappropriate. I have a similar policy on my blind-travel. If people offer services that benefit people on the list, mention them. But please don't send blatant advertising repeatedly. I removed a spammer who did that. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.3/700 - Release Date: 2/24/2007 8:14 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.4/702 - Release Date: 2/25/2007 3:16 PM To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank Email to bookshare-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the Subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line.