[bookshare-discuss] Re: Validation advice needed
- From: "Julie Morales" <inlovewithchrist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2005 15:10:55 -0800
Hi, Sam. It really isn't necessary to have Kurzweil's ability to rank the
book. It comes in handy if you have it, but it really isn't necessary. Don't
let yourself get so discouraged. If OmniPage works well for you, by all
means, keep using it, and hopefully, you've been able to find some help with
it. Take care.
Julie Morales
"This book (the Bible) will keep you from sin or sin will keep you from this
book." D.L. Moody
"To be a Christian means to forgive the inexcusable, because God has
forgiven the inexcusable in you." C.S. Lewis
----- Original Message -----
From: "L. Sammons" <lsammons@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 4:32 PM
Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: Validation advice needed
Thanks sue.
That clarifies the situation. I appreciate the feedback, but I guess this
ends my scanning career for a while. Maybe forever, unless I can figure out
how to get the page breaks into the material I scanned with OmniPage. And I
have no intention of buying Kurzweil or open book, as they are quite
expensive and OmniPage works good for everything else I do. It just seems
like it won't handle books. Also I have avoided trying validation's,
because I have no software which will score the text like Kurzweil does.
But I may try a validation or two, to see if I can make that work.
I may try contacting technical support at Omni page and see if there are
some options I can use when scanning books that I don't know about.
Otherwise, I guess I'm about out of luck there. I know OmniPage does a
beautiful job of character recognition, but it isn't much good if you can't
formatted properly after you've scanned. I do think there is a good chance
the problem is as much with dear old Microsoft as with OmniPage. But that's
a whole different story.
Thanks again.
Sam Sammons
----- Original Message -----
From: "siss52" <siss52@xxxxxxx>
To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 3:55 PM
Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: Validation advice needed
>
> Sam,
>
> I validated your Third Edition and wrote a note saying it did not have
> page
> breaks. I wrote an e-mail message to Marissa telling her it was an
> excellent scan except for that and asked that she return it to me if she
> wanted page breaks. She replied that she might return it to the
> submitter.
>
> The next thing I saw was the Fourth Edition, and I validated it as well..
> There had been a note asking the validator to confirm or deny that the
> book
> had page breaks..
>
> Having said all that, I was talking about the fourth edition which
> evidently
> someone else had scanned. But please do not be discouraged because your
> scan was excellent, and if you knew me you would know I speak the truth.
> Does that tell us anything about the importance of page breaks?
> <<<<smile>
>
> Sue S.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "L. Sammons" <lsammons@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 4:23 PM
> Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: Validation advice needed
>
>
> Hello Sue.
>
> Awhile back I scanned and submitted Alcoholics Anonymous. I don't have
> Kurzweil or open book, my OCR software is Omni Page Reader. I scanned one
> book previously, no man is an island, and it had been accepted, but did
> not
> have page breaks. When I scanned, Alcoholics Anonymous, I determined to
> keep the page breaks. Alcoholics Anonymous is a fairly long book and in
> the
> end I had fourr RTF files. All in pretty good shape. But when I tried to
> combine them. I ran into trouble. When I finally got them all together,
> I
> just submitted them to bookshare. Then I started reading the completed
> file
> and found that it had gotten really messed up in the process. I returned
> to
> bookshare and tried to get it back, so I could correct it myself, but
> somebody had already taken it. So I just decided to let it ride.
>
> I hadn't heard anything more about it till today when you said you had
> validated the book. I downloaded it and unpacked it. Both the HTML and
> the
> Daisy, file appears to be in pretty good order. When I checked the
> preface.
> I've found that the book in bookshare is the fourth edition. I scanned
> the
> third edition. It could be the RTF file you found that was all messed up
> was the one I submitted that somebody got tired of messing with and put
> back
> on the site, could you check and see if what you have is the third
> edition.
> I would like to know what happened to my submission.
>
> I have had so much trouble and wasted so much time getting my scans into
> an
> acceptable RTF format that I do not intend to submit any more books until
> I
> get things figured out. And I don't know if I'll ever be able to do that.
> The scans are okay, by the time I get them into Microsoft Word and try to
> combine them they get all fouled up. I dom't know what I'm going to do,
> but
> I would like to know if the bad RTF file that you have is the one I
> submitted. ----
>
> Sam Sammons
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "siss52" <siss52@xxxxxxx>
> To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 8:58 AM
> Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: Validation advice needed
>
>
>>
>> I validated Alcoholics Annonymous and it had page breaks, but I got it
>> down
>> to check after it got on the list, the BRF copy, and it had all kinds of
>> errors like that less than, greater than, stuff like that. It was a
>> mess.
>> It must have been the translator. I didn't get the Daisy copy.
>>
>> Sue S.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Kellie Hartmann" <hart0421@xxxxxxx>
>> To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 9:49 AM
>> Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: Validation advice needed
>>
>>
>> Hi Mary,
>> I'm sure you're not doing anything wrong. There were a few rtf files
>> which
>> actually didn't have page breaks. Kurzweil is really very good at showing
>> page breaks, so if you're not seeing them, they probably aren't there. Do
>> you happen to have MSWORD? If you do, try opening the file in there and
>> see
>> if the page breaks coincide with the page headers. If not, then there
>> aren't
>> page breaks. If you want to you could enter them, or if not you could
>> release the book. If you decide to release, it might be nice to let the
>> list
>> know what the book was in case someone else wants to take on the job. As
>> for
>> scanning, if you have the equipment you're more than welcome to do both
>> scanning and validating.
>> Kellie
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