Hi Cindy, Thanks again for the info. I'll save this as well. I found the copywrite info and the other number. Thanks bunches! Kathy A day hemmed in prayer, never comes unraveled. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx> To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 2:06 PM Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Submitting a book > Hi, Kathy, > > BTW (By the way, if you're not yet familiar with > e-mail shorthand) is Tom your husband or your dog? > > Anyway, back to the subject. One of the pages after > the title page has all the copyright data -- the name > of the publisher and the publication date; a symbol > which is a letter c inside a circle is the copyright > symbol; right next to that is the copyright date; > either next to that or on another line next to another > copyright symbol is the name of the person or entity > holding the copyright. It's usually the author of the > book but sometimes the publisher. Also, there can be > more than one copyright date; if a book is a later > edition than the original, there often will be both > the original copyright date and the more recent one. > Bookshare says to use the latest one. I have a problem > when the illustrator has a separate copyright, because > only one can go into the space,but I usually put that > info into the comments section. > > The ISBN number is on the same page if there is one. > Older books often don't have one, and you'll notice > that the bookshare form says it's optional, so you > don't have to put it in -- but it's helpful for the > validator if he or she is using a book to help with > the validation, so he/she gets the right edition. > > If you don't have that page with its information -- > some privately published things might not and some > paperbacks have the pages and sometimes cover torn off > -- then you can't submit the book. > > The study guide you mentioned --is that a separate > item? That might be tricky to submit; I would assume > it doesn't have all that info. Were you planning to > submit it as a separate document or have you attached > it to the end of the book, which would by my > suggestion. > > As to the synopsis -- Type in a brief summary of the > book. Further down, or on the next screen (I can't > remember) is space for a longer synopsis, which you > probably don't need , unless you want to describe the > book and its study guide more fully. What you wrote in > the discussiona about it would go in nicely there. the > Comments section is for whoever validates the book -- > any problems they might encounter, or if there were a > lot of foreign words of dialect that might account for > a quality rating (though I've noticed that lately the > automatic quality rater takes that into consideration > and if those words are the only oddities it gives the > book a Excellent rating)l You might inlcude your name > and e-mail address there in case the validator has any > questions. > > I'm not sure if you know the rest of the procedure -- > if you do, forgive my repeating it. After you submit > the book it instantly goes onto the Download for > Validation list. Then someone validates it, which > means proofreads it, which can take a short or long > time, depending on the quality of the scan, how much > you've done before submitting it (some people just > scan and submit so some books are a mess), the length > of the book, and how much time the validator has. > Whenthe validator finishes, he/she approves it for the > collection. The administrators give it a final > look-over for things and converts it to formats like > Daisy and BRF, and it's available to members. > > If you have any more questions or problems, I'll be > here all day and wil check my mail frequently. Good > luck. > > Cindy > > > > --- Kathy and Tom <tkdarnold@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> Hi Cindy, >> >> Question for ya. How do I get and enter the >> copywriter date, holder, isp >> number and all the good stuff. Also, There is a >> synopsis in the file. How >> do I put it in so there's a synopsis? I think >> that's it for now. LOL! I >> think, once I have all this down, I'll be able to >> submit more books. Thanks >> so much for your help! Smile! >> >> Kathy >> >> A day hemmed in prayer, never comes unraveled. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx> >> To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 2:44 AM >> Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: Am I the inferior >> validator? >> >> >> > I'm not Jana, but I'm up and so I thought I'd >> answer. >> > >> > After you log in, you go to the volunteers' page >> (I'm >> > assuming you're not only a member but also a >> > volunteer; I just found out that members aren't >> > automatically also volunteers). On the right-hand >> > side, the last item under the heading Books, is >> the >> > word Submit. You click on that and fill out the >> form >> > that you'll get. (by the way, the rtf file of your >> > book should have a dot rtf added, i.e., it should >> be >> > Battlefield of the Mind.rtf) >> > >> > Below the spaces for title, author, copyright >> date, >> > copyright holder, and ISBNnumber is a space asking >> for >> > format (I'm not sure that''s the right word, but >> > something like that). Click on that, scroll down >> until >> > you get to rtf and then click on that. The next >> space >> > that says browse. Click on browse, find your rtf >> file >> > and click on it. Your book file will go into the >> > space. Then proceed to fill in the the rest of >> the >> > spaces. When you're finished, at the bottom of the >> > page on the left is the word submit. Click on >> that >> > and you're done. >> > >> > I hope this explanation is both clear and not >> overly >> > explanatory. >> > >> > Cindy >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- Kathy and Tom <tkdarnold@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> > >> >> Hi Jana, >> >> >> >> Well, I did it! I converted the file to rtf. >> It's >> >> in my general folder in >> >> Kurzweil. I guess I'm one step closer to >> submitting >> >> the book and the study >> >> guide. So, what's the next step? >> >> >> >> Kathy >> >> >> >> A day hemmed in prayer, never comes unraveled. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: "Jana Jackson" <jana@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> >> To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> >> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 12:16 AM >> >> Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: Am I the >> inferior >> >> validator? >> >> >> >> >> >> > Hi, Kathy! If you want to convert your files >> to >> >> RTF, open them in K1000, >> >> > and then press Alt-f, A. If no file name is >> >> suggested, or even if one is, >> >> > you can either keep the suggested name or type >> in >> >> another one. If you >> >> > want >> >> > to save it in a folder or directly on the hard >> >> drive, you'll need to type >> >> > in >> >> > the full path. Let me know if you're not sure >> how >> >> to do this. Make sure >> >> > that the extension at the end of the file name >> is >> >> .rtf. You may want to >> >> > press the End key and backspace three times to >> get >> >> rid of the .kes >> >> > extension. Then tab once to the list of file >> >> types, and make sure that >> >> > the >> >> > Rich Text Format is selected. if it isn't, >> type >> >> the letter R, or use your >> >> > Up and Down arrow keys to find it. Tab once to >> >> the Save button, and press >> >> > Enter. Hope this makes sense! <Smile> >> >> > >> >> > Jana >> >> > >> >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> >> > From: "Kathy and Tom" <tkdarnold@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> >> > To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> >> > Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 10:31 PM >> >> > Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: Am I the >> inferior >> >> validator? >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> Hi Julie, >> >> >> >> >> >> Well, I've scanned one book by Joyce Meyer >> called >> >> Battle Field Of The >> >> > Mind. >> >> >> Plus, I scanned the study guide with it. I >> >> believe it's in Kes format. >> >> >> What I need to do really is read the >> instructions >> >> as to how to convert >> >> >> and >> >> >> upload the book. I'm a real beginner. Grin. >> It >> >> is a really good book! >> >> >> I'd like to be able to share it with everyone. >> >> >> >> >> >> Julie, Thanks for your encouragement! >> >> >> >> >> >> Your friend, >> >> >> >> >> >> Kathy and Desiree >> >> >> >> >> >> A day hemmed in prayer, never comes unraveled. >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> From: "J.M." <inlovewithchrist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> >> >> To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> >> >> Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 6:26 PM >> >> >> Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: Am I the >> >> inferior validator? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Hi, Kathy. Do you scan any books for >> yourself? >> >> If so, you're already >> >> >> > halfway >> >> >> > there. Just make sure you keep blank pages >> in >> >> the scan to maintain page >> >> >> > integrity, except for maybe if there are a >> few >> >> blank pages before the >> >> > book >> >> >> > starts, and make sure the title pages are >> >> there. As for blank pages, >> >> > there >> >> >> > have been some people who've scanned books >> >> before they got involved >> >> >> > with >> >> >> > Bookshare and blank pages were not kept. >> These >> >> books were still >> >> > submitted >> >> >> > and accepted, anyway, so as long as there's >> >> nothing missing, I guess >> >> >> > that's >> >> >> > not even crucial. If you've scanned some >> things >> >> for yourself, why not >> >> >> > submit >> >> >> > them? Take care. >> >> >> > Julie Morales >> >> >> > Email and Windows/MSN Messenger: >> >> >> > inlovewithchrist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> >> > When God puts a tear in your eye, it is >> because >> >> He wants to put a >> >> > rainbow >> >> >> > in >> >> >> > your heart. >> >> >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> > From: "Kathy and Tom" >> <tkdarnold@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> >> >> > To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> >> >> > Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 11:18 AM >> >> >> > Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: Am I the >> >> inferior validator? >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Hi Allison, >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Thanks for the encouragement. Maybe I'll >> try >> >> it sometime. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Kathy >> >> >> > >> >> >> > A day hemmed in prayer, never comes >> unraveled. >> >> >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> > From: "Allison" <alwaysallie@xxxxxxxxxxx> >> >> >> > To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> >> >> > Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 1:40 PM >> >> >> > Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: Am I the >> >> inferior validator? >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Hi guys, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Thanks for your feedback. I validated two >> >> books last night, and feel >> >> >> >> a >> >> >> >> lil >> >> >> >> better about the work I did. Props to >> those >> >> who focus more on >> >> >> >> formatting, >> >> >> >> but I do what I can. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Actually, that original message was left >> >> unfinished cuz I debated >> >> > sending >> >> >> >> it >> >> >> >> at all. I thought perhaps it was a little >> >> too... I dunno, whiny? >> >> >> >> But >> >> >> >> I'm >> >> >> >> glad it was recieved so well by you all. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> My advice to new scanners and validators? >> Do >> >> it anyway! I nkow it's >> >> >> >> kinda >> >> >> >> a daunting task, but it really does help >> the >> >> collection. I mean, >> >> > what's >> >> >> >> the >> >> >> >> worst that can happen? Your book is >> rejected, >> >> and so? It really >> >> > doesn't >> >> >> >> hurt anyone. And most likely the book will >> be >> >> accepted, even if it >> >> > needs >> >> >> >> a >> >> >> >> little work. The collection grows most cuz >> of >> >> the work of each of us. >> >> >> >> IF >> >> >> >> you need some tips, write the list, that's >> >> what we're here for.We >> >> >> >> don't >> >> >> >> mind. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Always, >> >> >> >> Allison >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > __________________________________ >> > Do you Yahoo!? >> > New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages! >> > http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail >> > >> >> >> > > > > > _______________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! > http://vote.yahoo.com >