[bookshare-discuss] Re: OT: NLS Narrators (was: Re: Re: comments on Publishers Phase Out Piracy Protection. . .)

  • From: Karen Lewellen <klewellen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 18:51:19 -0400 (EDT)

Hi again,
and this was the second one.  Feel free to answer off list if best.
I am very serious about making this happen. I have ties to a nonprofit organization if such would be needful to get the goods from the Library of congress. I do have question though? when I imagine such project, I am *not* thinking of changing these books to Daisy format.
Before folks start having a fit, I admit I am not objective.
These were library books and should be as easy to use as a library book is now. Public library material should be free, and all should be able to make use of it regardless of financial status.

Nothing drives me nuttier to think folks must spend say $500 or so to get a special player that may or may not play everything well or in all daisy formats....so you have to get another one.

Instead they should be transferred to real cd quality, none of this compressed mp3 stuff either, so that a listener can sit down in their living room using even their stereo and play them, sharing them with their family and with future generations. My Daisy experiences have not been great. the Victor Reader vibes device RFB&D passed around is dreadful, so I may be missing what is so good about the sound quality.

as one who works in Radio I can tell you that the concept of digital and quality is miss understood. Some things will sound more hollow when digitized, as apposed to say mixed via conventional methods, and if the source sound quality is poor making it a digital recording may or may not help this depending on what is used. compressed formats like mp3 are poor in quality when compared with real traditional audio mixing, or even.aif or .wav. My point is that millions of people could loe this material as much as we do, and should have a chance, if preserved properly and the word spread. the popularity of audio books commercially is evidence enough that there is a hungry audience. this NLs material like other books in the library of congress deserve proper preservation, and to be shared with as wide an audience as possible. Just because the first audience were the blind does not mean it should remain so exclusive.

Off soapbox lol.
Karen

On Wed, 12 Mar 2008, Curtis Delzer wrote:

I volunteer, I have the equipment, where-with-all, time, effort needed, and
facilities.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Karen Lewellen" <klewellen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 5:40 PM
Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: OT: NLS Narrators (was: Re: Re: comments on
Publishers Phase Out Piracy Protection. . .)


Oh my goodness!
Haynes read the hobbit before asky?
  I would do just about anything to hear that!
anne is correct his mastery of Dickens lives on in my soul and I am sure a
lot of others.
The thing is, with all of the restoration producers out there, recovering
these master's would not be that costly.  In fact I can just imagine
someone like Barnes and Nobel loving to donate grant money for it given
both the talent and the richness of the reading themselves.
national public radio has a set of studios for preserving audio from mater
tapes , I have radio  associates who use them all of the time for goodness
sake.
There was all this discussion at the library of congress regarding
preserving news and other radio history, given some of this material
ishistory too, why not fight to keep it?

 Pooh bureaucrats!
Karen

On Wed, 12 Mar 2008, duane iverson wrote:

Dear Anne:
I'd say Dido's, but as there was no profanity it doesn't begin to cover my
feelings on the matter.
I actually asked the question at an NFB convention as to why NLS was
paying
to rerecord these books and not reclaiming them. The masters still exist
in
many cases. I talked to the aFB president once. Anyway Frank Kurt Silky
lived
up to his middle name.
Speaking of Allan Haynes, he originally read The Hobbit. Now Bob Askee did
a
good job, but. . .
I taped Poul Anderson's wonderful book A Mid Summer Tempest read by Allan
Haynes. This book was a parallel history in which all the Shakespeare
plays
were true.


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----- Original Message ----- From: "Ann Parsons" <akp@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 10:25 AM
Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: OT: NLS Narrators (was: Re: Re: comments
on
Publishers Phase Out Piracy Protection. . .)


 Hi all,


 Original message:
 I hate to bring up the thought, but if they were in
 old-time radio shows, it my be that Father Time had
 gotten rid of them, not NLS. smile


 Actually, G. Cindy, one of the griefs which we who are old enough to
 remember is the loss of so many of these books that were recorded for
the
 blind.  We find it interesting, and indeed troubling, that one can
collect
 all the OTR programs one would ever want to collect and yet, only a few
of
 the old master recordings are available for duplication today.  LOC
claims
 lack of funding, and perhaps they are right.  Some of us, indeed one
 person I know of in California has personally offered to reclaim these
old
 master recordings, but to my knowledge, he has not been given the time
of
 day by the powers that be at Library of Congress.

 Oh, G. Cindy, when you can listen to The Shadow and Amos and Andy at any
 darn time you want, and yet, the complete set of Charles Dickens read by
 Alan Haines is thrown on the garbage heap because it is too costly to
 reclaim it, this makes me actually weep in frustration!  Alan Haines, a
 radio personality and actor from New York City was Welsh.  He could do
 *all* the regional accents of England, all of them, G. Cindy.  His
reading
 of How Green Was My Valley is a treasure, and if I find it *anywhere* at
 all, I want it, I want it so bad I can taste it!  All those singing
welsh
 voices with their wonderful accents.  A treasure, a real treasure lost
 because some stupid sighted bureaucrat decided it wasn't worth keeping!
I
 have here, my own personal recording of Haines reading The Dean's watch.
 I treasure it!  I have Scourby reading Watership Down.

 NLS has seen fit to have The Robe, remember my mentioning it?  They have
 seen fit to have some little bimbo with a tiny squeaky voice reading
this
 book!  It is *not* right!  They miscast this reading!  I am sure that
this
 lady, whomever she is, is not a bimbo, but she sounds like one.  Her
voice
 is high and it is tiny and it is squeaky.  Dale Carter might have done a
 good job with The Robe, but not this bimbo!  I can just hear her
giggling
 in the background. I had to send the book back to the library.  I
couldn't
 read it, just couldn't!  Her reading is awful, just terrible, and they
 threw out the Blackwell or Donally reading that made that book *live*!
 Oh, it's not a trivial complaint, not a trivial complaint at all!

 I better stop now, or I'll fill up my whole computer with this rant.

 Ann P.

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