Yes, but aren't you staff people from a school or something? I think individual accounts are only allowed 20 books. Most of the time, that will work. It's not like I'm in here all day; I have to work. Brenda Mueller > ----- Original Message ----- >From: "J.M." <inlovewithchrist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 23:06:21 -0700 >Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: OOOps! I spoke out of turn >Hi, Cindy. No, you're right. We get 100 books per month, but as I just said >in another message, the book counter can be reset, so even the 100 isn't a >written-in-stone limit. Take care. >Julie Morales >Email and Windows/MSN Messenger: >inlovewithchrist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >When God puts a tear in your eye, it is because He wants to put a rainbow in >your heart. >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx >To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 5:51 PM >Subject: [bookshare-discuss] OOOps! I spoke out of turn >OOOps -- Not until I hit send did I realize you said >per month. I think the 100 is per year. But I should >"butt out" and let other people answer who know more >than I. Sorry. >Cindy >-- Brenda Mueller <brendin@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> My impression is that I, as an individual subscriber >> can download 20 books a month. When I'm working, >> that's not going to happen, but when I'm home, >> snowed in with the power out, boy, can I read. >> Voice note works on batteries. When the power is >> out, I turn to Bookshare. >> Brenda Mueller >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>From: Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx >>>To: bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 15:32:58 -0700 (PDT) >>>Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: Do these books get >> read before being submitted? >>>Julie, >>>Hopefully you read my reply to boomerdad, but in >> case >>>not -- be sure to notify Jesse that the book is >>>unreadable all the way through. >>>BTW, Jesse -- when a member downloads a book from >> the >>>collection that he/she can't enjoy, do they get a >>>credit for the book, so it doesn't count against >> their >>>limit of 50 (or whatever?) >>>Cindy >>>--- "J.M." <inlovewithchrist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>> I can relate to this. Last night, I was reading >> one >>>> of the Left Behind >>>> books. I was over halfway done with the book when >> I >>>> encountered pure junk. >>>> Nothing made sense. I kept scrolling through, >> trying >>>> to find where I left >>>> off or at least somewhere where the text started >>>> making sense, but no luck. >>>> I was so frustrated! It irritates me when you get >>>> into a book and not >>>> realize it has some junk pages until you've >> already >>>> gotten into it. I guess >>>> I'll be downloading this copy from Web braille, >> as I >>>> know they have the >>>> whole series, but it is frustrating. Take care. >>>> Julie Morales >>>> Email and Windows/MSN Messenger: >>>> inlovewithchrist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> When God puts a tear in your eye, it is because >> He >>>> wants to put a rainbow in >>>> your heart. >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "boomerdad" <boomerdad@xxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 3:12 AM >>>> Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Do these books get >> read >>>> before being submitted? >>>> After having some difficulty scanning Wizard and >>>> Glass by Stephen King (I >>>> think Openbook doesn't like scanning big books >> when >>>> set to scan page layout >>>> elements, but that's a whole other topic for >> another >>>> list), I downloaded WIG >>>> from Bookshare and began to read. My first >> finding >>>> was that the entire book >>>> was double-spaced. I was a bit irritated, but I >>>> figured well, maybe there >>>> was a problem either in converting the book to >> the >>>> Bookshare format, or >>>> maybe when Openbook loaded it as an .ark file >>>> something happened. I >>>> figured, well, I can just manually fix this as I >>>> read. No big. Then I came >>>> up on a page that is completely and totally >> garbled, >>>> beyond any ability to >>>> recognize what the text is supposed to be. There >>>> are ^ symbols all over the >>>> place, and other oddities. Granted, the book is >>>> over 600 pages long, and >>>> that may be the only page like this ... I stopped >>>> reading in disgust and >>>> opted to try re-scanning this mammoth with >> Openbook. >>>> I have yet to do so; >>>> that's tomorrow's t >>>> hree-plus-hour task. My question is: If the >> person >>>> read this before >>>> submitting it, why not re-scan the offending >>>> page(s)? And if the submitting >>>> person didn't read it before submitting ... why >>>> submit something you haven't >>>> read yourself? It just seems like an awfully big >>>> leap of faith to do this; >>>> I've done it twice, and both times I was, >>>> thankfully, given the opportunity >>>> to make "corrections" in the form of rescanning >>>> pages that had >>>> unintelligible material. Once I was able to take >>>> advantage of the >>>> opportunity, once I wasn't ... but it taught me a >>>> very valuable lesson, as >>>> was reinforced by my Wizard and Glass experience. >>>> Besides, if you read >>>> something before submitting it, you get a chance >> to >>>> edit out the errors of a >>>> scan and submit a near-perfect to perfect copy of >>>> your book. >>>> It occurs to me as I write this that maybe the >>>> offending page could've been >>>> caused by Openbook somehow, as I've encountered >>>> garbled pages like this when >>>> scanning with Finereader from time to time. I >> find >>>> this unlikely, though, >>>> since so far as I know, Openbook merely reads >> from >>>> the Daisy-formatted book, >>>> and doesn't "convert" it to anything. >>>> The only possible objection to this >>>> read-before-submitting thing that comes >>>> readily to mind is "Well, if we did that, many >> fewer >>>> books would be >>>> available," to which I reply that while this is >>>> true, the quality of said >>>> books would be more consistent, more likely than >>>> not, and would lead to many >>>> more satisfying reading experiences. I submit >> many >>>> more books to >>>> Bookshare.org than I personally download, mainly >>>> because I've found from my >>>> experiences that downloading a book from >> Bookshare >>>> is a rather hit-and-miss >>>> experience. >>>> I also want to hasten to add that I am not in any >>>> way flaming the individual >>>> who submitted Wizard and Glass. As I said, I've >> had >>>> this happen myself to >>>> two of my submissions, so the question is more or >>>> less hypothetical; I was >>>> merely relating my experience, which happened to >>>> involve that particular >>>> book. >>>> If this post has had a harsh edge to it, I assure >>>> you it's not intentional. >>>> I am frustrated, and that has probably carried >> over >>>> into my writing, despite >>>> my attempts to prevent it from doing so. I >> already >>>> have scanned the book >>>> twice unsuccessfully because of the >> affore-mentioned >>>> page-layout problem in >>>> OpenBook, and the idea of scanning it *again* is >> ... >>>> well ... frustrating. >>>> I thought about just trying to re-scan any >>>> problematic pages ... but the >>>> Bookshare pages and Openbook's page divisions >> don't >>>> line up, so I'd have to >>>> do all sorts of cutting and pasting and deleting >> and >>>> ... yikes...! I think >>>> if my problem had just been with garbled pages, >> I'd >>>> do it, but since I would >>>> have to delete all those blank lines as I read >> the >>>> Bookshare version ... >>>> I'll try scanning it one. more. time. with the >>>> page-layout feature turned >>>> off and hope for better results. >>>> If nothing else, thanks for listening to >> (reading) >>>> me vent. I realize >>>> Bookshare is a voluntary program, and its >> existence >>>> is a wonderful thing; >>>> that's why I've joined it, and that's why I >> submit >>>> books I read. I just >>>> wish that when downloading a book to read from >>>> Bookshare, I could be more >>>> secure in the knowledge that I won't have to >> worry >>>> about encountering >>>> incomprehensible garbage that makes me guess at >> what >>>> occurred in passages of >>>> a book. >>>__________________________________________________ >>>Do You Yahoo!? >>>Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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