[bookshare-discuss] Re: Do these books get read before being submitted?
- From: "boomerdad" <boomerdad@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 21:41:11 -0700
Oh, I agree with this absoultely, for the record. I have never minded
correcting as I read; I figure that's what I'd be doing if I scanned the
book myself ... but when passages are unreadable ... well ... it makes one a
bit ... peeved.
----- Original Message -----
From: "J.M." <inlovewithchrist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 3:54 PM
Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: Do these books get read before being
submitted?
> Hi, Cindy. Well, I read over half the book before I hit all that junk.
Some
> junk is acceptable, at least to me, but when it interferes with the book,
> the text is interrupted and, in a lot of cases, totally not there, that's
> when I got frustrated. I did come across some junk characters I deleted
and
> some incorrect words, but I deleted the junk in that case and fixed the
> words, but when I hit all that junk where it was impossible to tell what
was
> supposed to be there...well, that was that. Take care.
> Julie Morales
> Email and Windows/MSN Messenger:
> inlovewithchrist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> When God puts a tear in your eye, it is because He wants to put a rainbow
in
> your heart.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 3:32 PM
> Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: Do these books get read before being
> submitted?
>
>
> Julie,
>
> Hopefully you read my reply to boomerdad, but in case
> not -- be sure to notify Jesse that the book is
> unreadable all the way through.
>
> BTW, Jesse -- when a member downloads a book from the
> collection that he/she can't enjoy, do they get a
> credit for the book, so it doesn't count against their
> limit of 50 (or whatever?)
>
> Cindy
> --- "J.M." <inlovewithchrist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > I can relate to this. Last night, I was reading one
> > of the Left Behind
> > books. I was over halfway done with the book when I
> > encountered pure junk.
> > Nothing made sense. I kept scrolling through, trying
> > to find where I left
> > off or at least somewhere where the text started
> > making sense, but no luck.
> > I was so frustrated! It irritates me when you get
> > into a book and not
> > realize it has some junk pages until you've already
> > gotten into it. I guess
> > I'll be downloading this copy from Web braille, as I
> > know they have the
> > whole series, but it is frustrating. Take care.
> > Julie Morales
> > Email and Windows/MSN Messenger:
> > inlovewithchrist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > When God puts a tear in your eye, it is because He
> > wants to put a rainbow in
> > your heart.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "boomerdad" <boomerdad@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 3:12 AM
> > Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Do these books get read
> > before being submitted?
> >
> >
> > After having some difficulty scanning Wizard and
> > Glass by Stephen King (I
> > think Openbook doesn't like scanning big books when
> > set to scan page layout
> > elements, but that's a whole other topic for another
> > list), I downloaded WIG
> > from Bookshare and began to read. My first finding
> > was that the entire book
> > was double-spaced. I was a bit irritated, but I
> > figured well, maybe there
> > was a problem either in converting the book to the
> > Bookshare format, or
> > maybe when Openbook loaded it as an .ark file
> > something happened. I
> > figured, well, I can just manually fix this as I
> > read. No big. Then I came
> > up on a page that is completely and totally garbled,
> > beyond any ability to
> > recognize what the text is supposed to be. There
> > are ^ symbols all over the
> > place, and other oddities. Granted, the book is
> > over 600 pages long, and
> > that may be the only page like this ... I stopped
> > reading in disgust and
> > opted to try re-scanning this mammoth with Openbook.
> > I have yet to do so;
> > that's tomorrow's t
> > hree-plus-hour task. My question is: If the person
> > read this before
> > submitting it, why not re-scan the offending
> > page(s)? And if the submitting
> > person didn't read it before submitting ... why
> > submit something you haven't
> > read yourself? It just seems like an awfully big
> > leap of faith to do this;
> > I've done it twice, and both times I was,
> > thankfully, given the opportunity
> > to make "corrections" in the form of rescanning
> > pages that had
> > unintelligible material. Once I was able to take
> > advantage of the
> > opportunity, once I wasn't ... but it taught me a
> > very valuable lesson, as
> > was reinforced by my Wizard and Glass experience.
> > Besides, if you read
> > something before submitting it, you get a chance to
> > edit out the errors of a
> > scan and submit a near-perfect to perfect copy of
> > your book.
> > It occurs to me as I write this that maybe the
> > offending page could've been
> > caused by Openbook somehow, as I've encountered
> > garbled pages like this when
> > scanning with Finereader from time to time. I find
> > this unlikely, though,
> > since so far as I know, Openbook merely reads from
> > the Daisy-formatted book,
> > and doesn't "convert" it to anything.
> >
> > The only possible objection to this
> > read-before-submitting thing that comes
> > readily to mind is "Well, if we did that, many fewer
> > books would be
> > available," to which I reply that while this is
> > true, the quality of said
> > books would be more consistent, more likely than
> > not, and would lead to many
> > more satisfying reading experiences. I submit many
> > more books to
> > Bookshare.org than I personally download, mainly
> > because I've found from my
> > experiences that downloading a book from Bookshare
> > is a rather hit-and-miss
> > experience.
> >
> > I also want to hasten to add that I am not in any
> > way flaming the individual
> > who submitted Wizard and Glass. As I said, I've had
> > this happen myself to
> > two of my submissions, so the question is more or
> > less hypothetical; I was
> > merely relating my experience, which happened to
> > involve that particular
> > book.
> >
> > If this post has had a harsh edge to it, I assure
> > you it's not intentional.
> > I am frustrated, and that has probably carried over
> > into my writing, despite
> > my attempts to prevent it from doing so. I already
> > have scanned the book
> > twice unsuccessfully because of the affore-mentioned
> > page-layout problem in
> > OpenBook, and the idea of scanning it *again* is ...
> > well ... frustrating.
> > I thought about just trying to re-scan any
> > problematic pages ... but the
> > Bookshare pages and Openbook's page divisions don't
> > line up, so I'd have to
> > do all sorts of cutting and pasting and deleting and
> > ... yikes...! I think
> > if my problem had just been with garbled pages, I'd
> > do it, but since I would
> > have to delete all those blank lines as I read the
> > Bookshare version ...
> > I'll try scanning it one. more. time. with the
> > page-layout feature turned
> > off and hope for better results.
> >
> > If nothing else, thanks for listening to (reading)
> > me vent. I realize
> > Bookshare is a voluntary program, and its existence
> > is a wonderful thing;
> > that's why I've joined it, and that's why I submit
> > books I read. I just
> > wish that when downloading a book to read from
> > Bookshare, I could be more
> > secure in the knowledge that I won't have to worry
> > about encountering
> > incomprehensible garbage that makes me guess at what
> > occurred in passages of
> > a book.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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