[bookshare-discuss] Re: Covers

  • From: "Evan Reese" <mentat1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 16:23:15 -0700

At least with my version of JAWS, it will not read fonts that are very large or very small. I don't know what the exact cutoff is.

I always read dust jacket info, and therefore, I always put it in mysubmissions. Of course, it is not a perfect guide, but it is a huge factor in my decision whether or not to read the book. Not perfect because it can be hard sometimes to say much about a book without giving too much away. A really good example of this is the dust jacket info - also called a blurb - for Arthur C. Clarke's Childhood's End. One of my favorite books of all, the blurb is not very informative. But I don't see how it could be much more informative than it is without spoiling it. This is not the usual case, though. Mostly, I find them a good guide as to whether I will like the book. But I have usually seen a review or two of most of the books I decide to read before I ever get them, so my judgment of blurbs is probably influenced by my feelings about what the review(s) said about the book.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 4:07 PM
Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: Covers



Too often the back cover of both paperbacks and
hardbounds is reviews or cudos for the book or,
sometimes author bios. In the latter case I put that
at the end; often it's on a final page in the book
anyway.

But I've found covers impossible to scan. I usually
just type the info myself. I try to approximate the
font size, but that isn't necessary, and anyway if the
type is too large certain readers--I don't remember if
it's Braille or some other technology--can't read it.
I think I was told some time ago n ot to use anything
large than 36 point. However, it really doesn't
matter.   Just the title and author can be typed on a
page as if it is the cover, even if there is an inner
title page, too.

And Jill is right; even with short or long synopses,
and many people don't include them, it's nice to have
the flap. In my work at the library, I find myself
reading the cover flaps and either adding the book to
my list of books to read or deciding no, I don't want
this one even if the cover has intrigued me. Last
Friday I found two more, neither of which is in the
bookshare collection: Engaged to Murder, a nonfiction
book in which  a principal and an English teacher were
convicted of killing the English teacher's fiancee and
her two children; and Bread-givers, which is about
fairly modern Jewish girls not wanting to marry men
their old-fashioned and strict father chooses for
them; I think one girl goes off on her own. Both, from
my skimming through a couple of pages, seem readable.
Some books sound interesting tome but when I look at a
couple of pages the writing seems tedious.

Cindy

--- Evan Reese <mentat1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Okay, I see.  That is the back cover in a paperback,
but it is the insides
of the front and back covers in a hardback.  I
always put that in, even
though it can take some work to get it to come out
right.  Often, it is dark
on light, and despite K1000's overall excellence, if
I optimize scan on the
text somewhere inside the book, the dust jacket info
sometimes comes out
garbled, with stuff missing, or in one case, it told
me the page was blank
even though it was full of dark print on a light
background.  I had to
fiddle with scanner settings quite a bit before it
would come out (mostly).
(Yes, I indeed had it set to recognize dark text on
a light background.)  It
just confirms what all my experience has shown: OCR
is a lot better than it
used to be, but it still can't equal an Optacon.  If
I could read faster
with it, I might not scan at all.

Anyhow, I have a few hardbacks here, and I never
considered looking at the
outside back cover of one.  Jeepers!  I should at
least see what is on one
or two of them.  Probably marketing fluff.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Julie & Miss Mercy" <mercy421@xxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 10:53 AM
Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: Covers



The back cover is the book jacket, and that's what I scan. I don't even try to scan the front cover or anything else, but the back cover does contain the synopsis, usually, or the book jacket...what you'll find on the pages NLS labels as the Book Jacket information. That's on the back cover, so that's what I scan. Take care. -- Julie Morales Email & Windows/MSN Messenger: mercy421@xxxxxxxxxxx Skype: mercy0421 Please contact me if I may not recognize your contact info before adding me or I may not add you! Currently in Winchester Regional, Virginia Overcast, 64F�(18C�) Wind:SSE (150�) at 9mph (8KT) Warning: Dates in Calendar are closer than they appear. Created by WeatherSig v1.10 � http://www.weathersig.com


Evan Reese wrote:
> I always put the dust jacket info in my
submissions, just after the title
> page and copyright info, which usually appears on
the following page.
> That is the way NLS does it, and it seems as
logical to me as any other
> method. But I never considered scanning the
outside covers of hardbacks,
> or the front covers of paperbacks. What
information do they contain that
> isn't on the title page, except for perhaps
pictures that wouldn't scan
> anyhow?
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julie & Miss
Mercy"
> <mercy421@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 9:32 AM
> Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: Covers
>
>
> Hi, Cindy. I think the same way you do about
covers, and that's why, in
> books I scan, the cover material is scanned first
if
> it will scan at all. A sighted reader sees the
cover first and often reads
> the book jacket as one way of deciding if it's
> something they want to read, so it stands to
reason, at least to my way of
> thinking, that the cover material should be
> first...but that's just me and certainly no
official rule. <smile> Take
> care.
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> Cindy wrote:
>> I'm sure someone else is answering this too, but
>> I'llput in my two-cents worth.
>>
>> No, it doesn't matter. In fact, many people don't
put
>> in cover info. They start with the title page or,
in
>> the case of paperbacks, other front page
material.
>>
>> When I validate, I put "cover" in brackets and
put
>> the cover info. As sighted reader, I like to see
the
>> cover first, although some hardbound have the
covers
>> mssing. I know "you can't tell a book by it's
cover,"
>> but still...and I figure, even though bookshare
>> members download books and know what they're
getting,
>> they might like to read the cover info--but maybe
>> that's just me. smile
>>
>> Cindy
>>
>> --- Tony Baechler <bookshare@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all. I have a quick question. When scanning
>>> books, is the condition of the cover important?
I'm looking at
>>> some books with warn or rubbed covers. If
necessary, I can get them
>>> with better covers but I'm wondering if it
matters. Carrie
>>> would be scanning them with the high speed
scanner and the spine would
>>> be chopped anyway so I don't see that it would
matter but I'm
>>> interested in the best scanned copies possible.
>>>
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