[bookshare-discuss] Re: Covers

  • From: "Sarah Cranston" <cranston.sarah@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 13:22:35 -0500

I often have to take the cover off a hardback in order to get it to scan all 
the text, which can be a real pain, given the little pieces of masking tape 
holding it onto the book.  But, once the cover has been temporarily separated 
from the book, I have often found the book jacket material on the inside cover 
of both the front and the back will scan pretty well with some adjustment.  
This is usually where I get my synopses.


-----Original Message-----
From: Julie & Miss Mercy [mailto:mercy421@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 1:15 PM
To: bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: Covers


Sometimes, there is some printing on the back cover of a hardback that I do 
scan, but a lot of times, it's just some 
repetition of what's on the inside flap of the cover, which yes, I scan that, 
too. They can be difficult to scan, though, no 
doubt about that, and it usually takes some doing for me to get them to come 
out right, too. Take care.
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Evan Reese wrote:
> Okay, I see.  That is the back cover in a paperback, but it is the 
> insides of the front and back covers in a hardback.  I always put that 
> in, even though it can take some work to get it to come out right.  
> Often, it is dark on light, and despite K1000's overall excellence, if I 
> optimize scan on the text somewhere inside the book, the dust jacket 
> info sometimes comes out garbled, with stuff missing, or in one case, it 
> told me the page was blank even though it was full of dark print on a 
> light background.  I had to fiddle with scanner settings quite a bit 
> before it would come out (mostly). (Yes, I indeed had it set to 
> recognize dark text on a light background.)  It just confirms what all 
> my experience has shown: OCR is a lot better than it used to be, but it 
> still can't equal an Optacon.  If I could read faster with it, I might 
> not scan at all.
> 
> Anyhow, I have a few hardbacks here, and I never considered looking at 
> the outside back cover of one.  Jeepers!  I should at least see what is 
> on one or two of them.  Probably marketing fluff.
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julie & Miss Mercy" 
> <mercy421@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 10:53 AM
> Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: Covers
> 
> 
> The back cover is the book jacket, and that's what I scan. I don't even 
> try to scan the front cover or anything else, but
> the back cover does contain the synopsis, usually, or the book 
> jacket...what you'll find on the pages NLS labels as the Book
> Jacket information. That's on the back cover, so that's what I scan. 
> Take care.
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> Evan Reese wrote:
>> I always put the dust jacket info in my submissions, just after the 
>> title page and copyright info, which usually appears on the following 
>> page. That is the way NLS does it, and it seems as logical to me as 
>> any other method. But I never considered scanning the outside covers 
>> of hardbacks, or the front covers of paperbacks.  What information do 
>> they contain that isn't on the title page, except for perhaps pictures 
>> that wouldn't scan anyhow?
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julie & Miss Mercy" 
>> <mercy421@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 9:32 AM
>> Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: Covers
>>
>>
>> Hi, Cindy. I think the same way you do about covers, and that's why, 
>> in books I scan, the cover material is scanned first if
>> it will scan at all. A sighted reader sees the cover first and often 
>> reads the book jacket as one way of deciding if it's
>> something they want to read, so it stands to reason, at least to my 
>> way of thinking, that the cover material should be
>> first...but that's just me and certainly no official rule. <smile> 
>> Take care.
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>> Cindy wrote:
>>> I'm sure someone else is answering this too, but
>>> I'llput in my two-cents worth.
>>>
>>> No, it doesn't matter. In fact, many people don't put
>>> in cover info. They start with the title page or, in
>>> the case of paperbacks, other front page material.
>>>
>>>  When I validate, I put "cover" in brackets and put
>>> the cover info. As  sighted reader, I like to see the
>>> cover first, although some hardbound have the covers
>>> mssing. I know "you can't tell a book by it's cover,"
>>> but still...and I figure, even though bookshare
>>> members download books and know what they're getting,
>>> they might like to read the cover info--but maybe
>>> that's just me. smile
>>>
>>> Cindy
>>>
>>> --- Tony Baechler <bookshare@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all.  I have a quick question.  When scanning
>>>> books, is the condition of the cover important?  I'm looking at
>>>> some books with warn or rubbed covers.  If necessary, I can get them
>>>> with better covers but I'm wondering if it matters.  Carrie
>>>> would be scanning them with the high speed scanner and the spine would
>>>> be chopped anyway so I don't see that it would matter but I'm
>>>> interested in the best scanned copies possible.
>>>>
>>>>
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