[bookshare-discuss] Re: Am I the inferior validator?
- From: "Kathy and Tom" <tkdarnold@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 23:18:28 -0400
Hi Julie,
I agree. Thanks for your support. Yes. The books came separately. Thanks
bunches!
Kathy
A day hemmed in prayer, never comes unraveled.
----- Original Message -----
From: "J.M." <inlovewithchrist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 10:15 PM
Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: Am I the inferior validator?
> Hi, Kathy. If they came as separate books in the print versions, you did
> the
> right thing. Some might prefer the books combined, but if they want that,
> they can combine them when they download the books. If the books came
> separate in the printed versions, they should be submitted that way, in my
> opinion, but I could be wrong. Take care.
> Julie Morales
> Email and Windows/MSN Messenger:
> inlovewithchrist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> When God puts a tear in your eye, it is because He wants to put a rainbow
> in
> your heart.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kathy and Tom" <tkdarnold@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 1:17 PM
> Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: Am I the inferior validator?
>
>
> Hi Cindy,
>
> Tom is my husband. My Guide Dog's name is Desiree. Smile!
>
> Thanks so much for all this info. I'll save it for future reference.
>
> Before I got your message, I went ahead and submitted the book and the
> study
> guide. I did them as separate books. Hope that was ok.
>
> With your info, I'll have a better understanding when I submit my next
> book.
> LOL! Have a good one.
>
> Kathy
>
> A day hemmed in prayer, never comes unraveled.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 2:06 PM
> Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: Am I the inferior validator?
>
>
>> Hi, Kathy,
>>
>> BTW (By the way, if you're not yet familiar with
>> e-mail shorthand) is Tom your husband or your dog?
>>
>> Anyway, back to the subject. One of the pages after
>> the title page has all the copyright data -- the name
>> of the publisher and the publication date; a symbol
>> which is a letter c inside a circle is the copyright
>> symbol; right next to that is the copyright date;
>> either next to that or on another line next to another
>> copyright symbol is the name of the person or entity
>> holding the copyright. It's usually the author of the
>> book but sometimes the publisher. Also, there can be
>> more than one copyright date; if a book is a later
>> edition than the original, there often will be both
>> the original copyright date and the more recent one.
>> Bookshare says to use the latest one. I have a problem
>> when the illustrator has a separate copyright, because
>> only one can go into the space,but I usually put that
>> info into the comments section.
>>
>> The ISBN number is on the same page if there is one.
>> Older books often don't have one, and you'll notice
>> that the bookshare form says it's optional, so you
>> don't have to put it in -- but it's helpful for the
>> validator if he or she is using a book to help with
>> the validation, so he/she gets the right edition.
>>
>> If you don't have that page with its information --
>> some privately published things might not and some
>> paperbacks have the pages and sometimes cover torn off
>> -- then you can't submit the book.
>>
>> The study guide you mentioned --is that a separate
>> item? That might be tricky to submit; I would assume
>> it doesn't have all that info. Were you planning to
>> submit it as a separate document or have you attached
>> it to the end of the book, which would by my
>> suggestion.
>>
>> As to the synopsis -- Type in a brief summary of the
>> book. Further down, or on the next screen (I can't
>> remember) is space for a longer synopsis, which you
>> probably don't need , unless you want to describe the
>> book and its study guide more fully. What you wrote in
>> the discussiona about it would go in nicely there. the
>> Comments section is for whoever validates the book --
>> any problems they might encounter, or if there were a
>> lot of foreign words of dialect that might account for
>> a quality rating (though I've noticed that lately the
>> automatic quality rater takes that into consideration
>> and if those words are the only oddities it gives the
>> book a Excellent rating)l You might inlcude your name
>> and e-mail address there in case the validator has any
>> questions.
>>
>> I'm not sure if you know the rest of the procedure --
>> if you do, forgive my repeating it. After you submit
>> the book it instantly goes onto the Download for
>> Validation list. Then someone validates it, which
>> means proofreads it, which can take a short or long
>> time, depending on the quality of the scan, how much
>> you've done before submitting it (some people just
>> scan and submit so some books are a mess), the length
>> of the book, and how much time the validator has.
>> Whenthe validator finishes, he/she approves it for the
>> collection. The administrators give it a final
>> look-over for things and converts it to formats like
>> Daisy and BRF, and it's available to members.
>>
>> If you have any more questions or problems, I'll be
>> here all day and wil check my mail frequently. Good
>> luck.
>>
>> Cindy
>>
>>
>>
>> --- Kathy and Tom <tkdarnold@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Cindy,
>>>
>>> Question for ya. How do I get and enter the
>>> copywriter date, holder, isp
>>> number and all the good stuff. Also, There is a
>>> synopsis in the file. How
>>> do I put it in so there's a synopsis? I think
>>> that's it for now. LOL! I
>>> think, once I have all this down, I'll be able to
>>> submit more books. Thanks
>>> so much for your help! Smile!
>>>
>>> Kathy
>>>
>>> A day hemmed in prayer, never comes unraveled.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 2:44 AM
>>> Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: Am I the inferior
>>> validator?
>>>
>>>
>>> > I'm not Jana, but I'm up and so I thought I'd
>>> answer.
>>> >
>>> > After you log in, you go to the volunteers' page
>>> (I'm
>>> > assuming you're not only a member but also a
>>> > volunteer; I just found out that members aren't
>>> > automatically also volunteers). On the right-hand
>>> > side, the last item under the heading Books, is
>>> the
>>> > word Submit. You click on that and fill out the
>>> form
>>> > that you'll get. (by the way, the rtf file of your
>>> > book should have a dot rtf added, i.e., it should
>>> be
>>> > Battlefield of the Mind.rtf)
>>> >
>>> > Below the spaces for title, author, copyright
>>> date,
>>> > copyright holder, and ISBNnumber is a space asking
>>> for
>>> > format (I'm not sure that''s the right word, but
>>> > something like that). Click on that, scroll down
>>> until
>>> > you get to rtf and then click on that. The next
>>> space
>>> > that says browse. Click on browse, find your rtf
>>> file
>>> > and click on it. Your book file will go into the
>>> > space. Then proceed to fill in the the rest of
>>> the
>>> > spaces. When you're finished, at the bottom of the
>>> > page on the left is the word submit. Click on
>>> that
>>> > and you're done.
>>> >
>>> > I hope this explanation is both clear and not
>>> overly
>>> > explanatory.
>>> >
>>> > Cindy
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > -- Kathy and Tom <tkdarnold@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Hi Jana,
>>> >>
>>> >> Well, I did it! I converted the file to rtf.
>>> It's
>>> >> in my general folder in
>>> >> Kurzweil. I guess I'm one step closer to
>>> submitting
>>> >> the book and the study
>>> >> guide. So, what's the next step?
>>> >>
>>> >> Kathy
>>> >>
>>> >> A day hemmed in prayer, never comes unraveled.
>>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>>> >> From: "Jana Jackson" <jana@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >> To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 12:16 AM
>>> >> Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: Am I the
>>> inferior
>>> >> validator?
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> > Hi, Kathy! If you want to convert your files
>>> to
>>> >> RTF, open them in K1000,
>>> >> > and then press Alt-f, A. If no file name is
>>> >> suggested, or even if one is,
>>> >> > you can either keep the suggested name or type
>>> in
>>> >> another one. If you
>>> >> > want
>>> >> > to save it in a folder or directly on the hard
>>> >> drive, you'll need to type
>>> >> > in
>>> >> > the full path. Let me know if you're not sure
>>> how
>>> >> to do this. Make sure
>>> >> > that the extension at the end of the file name
>>> is
>>> >> .rtf. You may want to
>>> >> > press the End key and backspace three times to
>>> get
>>> >> rid of the .kes
>>> >> > extension. Then tab once to the list of file
>>> >> types, and make sure that
>>> >> > the
>>> >> > Rich Text Format is selected. if it isn't,
>>> type
>>> >> the letter R, or use your
>>> >> > Up and Down arrow keys to find it. Tab once to
>>> >> the Save button, and press
>>> >> > Enter. Hope this makes sense! <Smile>
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Jana
>>> >> >
>>> >> > ----- Original Message -----
>>> >> > From: "Kathy and Tom" <tkdarnold@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >> > To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >> > Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 10:31 PM
>>> >> > Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: Am I the
>>> inferior
>>> >> validator?
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >> Hi Julie,
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Well, I've scanned one book by Joyce Meyer
>>> called
>>> >> Battle Field Of The
>>> >> > Mind.
>>> >> >> Plus, I scanned the study guide with it. I
>>> >> believe it's in Kes format.
>>> >> >> What I need to do really is read the
>>> instructions
>>> >> as to how to convert
>>> >> >> and
>>> >> >> upload the book. I'm a real beginner. Grin.
>>> It
>>> >> is a really good book!
>>> >> >> I'd like to be able to share it with everyone.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Julie, Thanks for your encouragement!
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Your friend,
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Kathy and Desiree
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> A day hemmed in prayer, never comes unraveled.
>>> >> >> ----- Original Message -----
>>> >> >> From: "J.M." <inlovewithchrist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >> >> To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >> >> Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 6:26 PM
>>> >> >> Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: Am I the
>>> >> inferior validator?
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> > Hi, Kathy. Do you scan any books for
>>> yourself?
>>> >> If so, you're already
>>> >> >> > halfway
>>> >> >> > there. Just make sure you keep blank pages
>>> in
>>> >> the scan to maintain page
>>> >> >> > integrity, except for maybe if there are a
>>> few
>>> >> blank pages before the
>>> >> > book
>>> >> >> > starts, and make sure the title pages are
>>> >> there. As for blank pages,
>>> >> > there
>>> >> >> > have been some people who've scanned books
>>> >> before they got involved
>>> >> >> > with
>>> >> >> > Bookshare and blank pages were not kept.
>>> These
>>> >> books were still
>>> >> > submitted
>>> >> >> > and accepted, anyway, so as long as there's
>>> >> nothing missing, I guess
>>> >> >> > that's
>>> >> >> > not even crucial. If you've scanned some
>>> things
>>> >> for yourself, why not
>>> >> >> > submit
>>> >> >> > them? Take care.
>>> >> >> > Julie Morales
>>> >> >> > Email and Windows/MSN Messenger:
>>> >> >> > inlovewithchrist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> >> >> > When God puts a tear in your eye, it is
>>> because
>>> >> He wants to put a
>>> >> > rainbow
>>> >> >> > in
>>> >> >> > your heart.
>>> >> >> > ----- Original Message -----
>>> >> >> > From: "Kathy and Tom"
>>> <tkdarnold@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >> >> > To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >> >> > Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 11:18 AM
>>> >> >> > Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: Am I the
>>> >> inferior validator?
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > Hi Allison,
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > Thanks for the encouragement. Maybe I'll
>>> try
>>> >> it sometime.
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > Kathy
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > A day hemmed in prayer, never comes
>>> unraveled.
>>> >> >> > ----- Original Message -----
>>> >> >> > From: "Allison" <alwaysallie@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >> >> > To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >> >> > Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 1:40 PM
>>> >> >> > Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: Am I the
>>> >> inferior validator?
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> Hi guys,
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> Thanks for your feedback. I validated two
>>> >> books last night, and feel
>>> >> >> >> a
>>> >> >> >> lil
>>> >> >> >> better about the work I did. Props to
>>> those
>>> >> who focus more on
>>> >> >> >> formatting,
>>> >> >> >> but I do what I can.
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> Actually, that original message was left
>>> >> unfinished cuz I debated
>>> >> > sending
>>> >> >> >> it
>>> >> >> >> at all. I thought perhaps it was a little
>>> >> too... I dunno, whiny?
>>> >> >> >> But
>>> >> >> >> I'm
>>> >> >> >> glad it was recieved so well by you all.
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> My advice to new scanners and validators?
>>> Do
>>> >> it anyway! I nkow it's
>>> >> >> >> kinda
>>> >> >> >> a daunting task, but it really does help
>>> the
>>> >> collection. I mean,
>>> >> > what's
>>> >> >> >> the
>>> >> >> >> worst that can happen? Your book is
>>> rejected,
>>> >> and so? It really
>>> >> > doesn't
>>> >> >> >> hurt anyone. And most likely the book will
>>> be
>>> >> accepted, even if it
>>> >> > needs
>>> >> >> >> a
>>> >> >> >> little work. The collection grows most cuz
>>> of
>>> >> the work of each of us.
>>> >> >> >> IF
>>> >> >> >> you need some tips, write the list, that's
>>> >> what we're here for.We
>>> >> >> >> don't
>>> >> >> >> mind.
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> Always,
>>> >> >> >> Allison
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
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