[bookshare-discuss] Re: Am I the inferior validator?

  • From: "Kathy and Tom" <tkdarnold@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 16:17:29 -0400

Hi Cindy,

Tom is my husband.  My Guide Dog's name is Desiree.  Smile!

Thanks so much for all this info.  I'll save it for future reference.

Before I got your message, I went ahead and submitted the book and the study 
guide.  I did them as separate books.  Hope that was ok.

With your info, I'll have a better understanding when I submit my next book. 
LOL!  Have a good one.

Kathy

A day hemmed in prayer, never comes unraveled.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 2:06 PM
Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: Am I the inferior validator?


> Hi, Kathy,
>
> BTW (By the way, if you're not yet familiar with
> e-mail shorthand) is Tom your husband or your dog?
>
> Anyway, back to the subject. One of the pages after
> the title page has all the copyright data -- the name
> of the publisher and the publication date;  a symbol
> which is a letter c inside a circle is the copyright
> symbol; right next to that is the copyright date;
> either next to that or on another line next to another
> copyright symbol is the name of the person or entity
> holding the copyright. It's usually the author of the
> book but sometimes the publisher. Also, there can be
> more than one copyright date; if a book is a later
> edition than the original, there often will be both
> the original copyright date and the more recent one.
> Bookshare says to use the latest one. I have a problem
> when the illustrator has a separate copyright, because
> only one can go into the space,but I usually put that
> info into the comments section.
>
> The ISBN number is on the same page if there is one.
> Older books often don't have one, and you'll notice
> that the bookshare form says it's optional, so you
> don't have to put it in -- but it's helpful for the
> validator  if he or she is using a book to help with
> the validation, so he/she gets the right edition.
>
> If  you don't have that page with its information --
> some privately published things might not and some
> paperbacks have the pages and sometimes cover torn off
> -- then you can't submit the book.
>
> The study guide you mentioned --is that a separate
> item? That might be tricky to submit; I would assume
> it doesn't have all that info. Were you planning to
> submit it as a separate document or have you attached
> it to the end of the book, which would by my
> suggestion.
>
> As to the synopsis -- Type in a brief summary of the
> book. Further down, or on the next screen (I can't
> remember) is space for a longer synopsis, which you
> probably don't need , unless you want to describe the
> book and its study guide more fully. What you wrote in
> the discussiona about it would go in nicely there. the
> Comments section is for whoever validates the book --
> any problems they might encounter, or if there were a
> lot of foreign words of dialect that might account for
> a quality rating (though I've noticed that lately the
> automatic quality rater takes that into consideration
> and if those words are the only oddities it gives the
> book a  Excellent rating)l You might inlcude your name
> and e-mail address there in case the validator has any
> questions.
>
> I'm not sure if you know the rest of the procedure --
> if you do, forgive my repeating it. After you submit
> the book it instantly goes onto the Download for
> Validation list. Then someone validates it, which
> means proofreads it, which can take a short or long
> time, depending on the quality of the scan, how much
> you've done before submitting it (some people just
> scan and submit so some books are a mess), the length
> of the book, and how much time the validator has.
> Whenthe validator finishes, he/she approves it for the
> collection. The administrators give it a final
> look-over for things and converts it to formats like
> Daisy and BRF, and it's available to members.
>
> If you have any more questions or problems, I'll be
> here all day and wil check my mail frequently.  Good
> luck.
>
> Cindy
>
>
>
> --- Kathy and Tom <tkdarnold@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Hi Cindy,
>>
>> Question for ya.  How do I get and enter the
>> copywriter date, holder, isp
>> number and all the good stuff.  Also, There is a
>> synopsis in the file.  How
>> do I put it in so there's a synopsis?  I think
>> that's it for now.  LOL!  I
>> think, once I have all this down, I'll be able to
>> submit more books.  Thanks
>> so much for your help!  Smile!
>>
>> Kathy
>>
>> A day hemmed in prayer, never comes unraveled.
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 2:44 AM
>> Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: Am I the inferior
>> validator?
>>
>>
>> > I'm not Jana, but I'm up and so I thought I'd
>> answer.
>> >
>> > After you log in, you go to the volunteers' page
>> (I'm
>> > assuming you're not only a member but also a
>> > volunteer; I just found out that members aren't
>> > automatically also volunteers). On the  right-hand
>> > side, the last item under the heading Books, is
>> the
>> > word  Submit. You click on that and fill out the
>> form
>> > that you'll get. (by the way, the rtf file of your
>> > book should have a dot rtf added, i.e., it should
>> be
>> > Battlefield of the Mind.rtf)
>> >
>> > Below the spaces for title, author, copyright
>> date,
>> > copyright holder, and ISBNnumber is a space asking
>> for
>> > format (I'm not sure that''s the right word, but
>> > something like that). Click on that, scroll down
>> until
>> > you get to rtf and then click on that. The next
>> space
>> > that says browse. Click on browse, find your rtf
>> file
>> > and click on it. Your book file will go into the
>> > space.  Then proceed to fill in the the rest of
>> the
>> > spaces. When you're finished, at the bottom of the
>> > page on the left  is the word submit. Click on
>> that
>> > and you're done.
>> >
>> > I hope this explanation is both clear and not
>> overly
>> > explanatory.
>> >
>> > Cindy
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -- Kathy and Tom <tkdarnold@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi Jana,
>> >>
>> >> Well, I did it!  I converted the file to rtf.
>> It's
>> >> in my general folder in
>> >> Kurzweil.  I guess I'm one step closer to
>> submitting
>> >> the book and the study
>> >> guide.  So, what's the next step?
>> >>
>> >> Kathy
>> >>
>> >> A day hemmed in prayer, never comes unraveled.
>> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> >> From: "Jana Jackson" <jana@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >> To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 12:16 AM
>> >> Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: Am I the
>> inferior
>> >> validator?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > Hi, Kathy!  If you want to convert your files
>> to
>> >> RTF, open them in K1000,
>> >> > and then press Alt-f, A.  If no file name is
>> >> suggested, or even if one is,
>> >> > you can either keep the suggested name or type
>> in
>> >> another one.  If you
>> >> > want
>> >> > to save it in a folder or directly on the hard
>> >> drive, you'll need to type
>> >> > in
>> >> > the full path.  Let me know if you're not sure
>> how
>> >> to do this.  Make sure
>> >> > that the extension at the end of the file name
>> is
>> >> .rtf.  You may want to
>> >> > press the End key and backspace three times to
>> get
>> >> rid of the .kes
>> >> > extension.  Then tab once to the list of file
>> >> types, and make sure that
>> >> > the
>> >> > Rich Text Format is selected.  if it isn't,
>> type
>> >> the letter R, or use your
>> >> > Up and Down arrow keys to find it.  Tab once to
>> >> the Save button, and press
>> >> > Enter.  Hope this makes sense! <Smile>
>> >> >
>> >> > Jana
>> >> >
>> >> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> >> > From: "Kathy and Tom" <tkdarnold@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >> > To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >> > Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 10:31 PM
>> >> > Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: Am I the
>> inferior
>> >> validator?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >> Hi Julie,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Well, I've scanned one book by Joyce Meyer
>> called
>> >> Battle Field Of The
>> >> > Mind.
>> >> >> Plus, I scanned the study guide with it.  I
>> >> believe it's in Kes format.
>> >> >> What I need to do really is read the
>> instructions
>> >> as to how to convert
>> >> >> and
>> >> >> upload the book.  I'm a real beginner.  Grin.
>> It
>> >> is a really good book!
>> >> >> I'd like to be able to share it with everyone.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Julie, Thanks for your encouragement!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Your friend,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Kathy and Desiree
>> >> >>
>> >> >> A day hemmed in prayer, never comes unraveled.
>> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> >> >> From: "J.M." <inlovewithchrist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >> >> To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >> >> Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 6:26 PM
>> >> >> Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: Am I the
>> >> inferior validator?
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Hi, Kathy. Do you scan any books for
>> yourself?
>> >> If so, you're already
>> >> >> > halfway
>> >> >> > there. Just make sure you keep blank pages
>> in
>> >> the scan to maintain page
>> >> >> > integrity, except for maybe if there are a
>> few
>> >> blank pages before the
>> >> > book
>> >> >> > starts, and make sure the title pages are
>> >> there. As for blank pages,
>> >> > there
>> >> >> > have been some people who've scanned books
>> >> before they got involved
>> >> >> > with
>> >> >> > Bookshare and blank pages were not kept.
>> These
>> >> books were still
>> >> > submitted
>> >> >> > and accepted, anyway, so as long as there's
>> >> nothing missing, I guess
>> >> >> > that's
>> >> >> > not even crucial. If you've scanned some
>> things
>> >> for yourself, why not
>> >> >> > submit
>> >> >> > them? Take care.
>> >> >> > Julie Morales
>> >> >> > Email and Windows/MSN Messenger:
>> >> >> > inlovewithchrist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> >> > When God puts a tear in your eye, it is
>> because
>> >> He wants to put a
>> >> > rainbow
>> >> >> > in
>> >> >> > your heart.
>> >> >> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> >> >> > From: "Kathy and Tom"
>> <tkdarnold@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >> >> > To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >> >> > Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 11:18 AM
>> >> >> > Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: Am I the
>> >> inferior validator?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Hi Allison,
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Thanks for the encouragement.  Maybe I'll
>> try
>> >> it sometime.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Kathy
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > A day hemmed in prayer, never comes
>> unraveled.
>> >> >> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> >> >> > From: "Allison" <alwaysallie@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >> >> > To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >> >> > Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 1:40 PM
>> >> >> > Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: Am I the
>> >> inferior validator?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> Hi guys,
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Thanks for your feedback.  I validated two
>> >> books last night, and feel
>> >> >> >> a
>> >> >> >> lil
>> >> >> >> better about the work I did.  Props to
>> those
>> >> who focus more on
>> >> >> >> formatting,
>> >> >> >> but I do what I can.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Actually, that original message was left
>> >> unfinished cuz I debated
>> >> > sending
>> >> >> >> it
>> >> >> >> at all. I thought perhaps it was a little
>> >> too... I dunno, whiny?
>> >> >> >> But
>> >> >> >> I'm
>> >> >> >> glad it was recieved so well by you all.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> My advice to new scanners and validators?
>> Do
>> >> it anyway!  I  nkow it's
>> >> >> >> kinda
>> >> >> >> a daunting task, but it really does help
>> the
>> >> collection.  I mean,
>> >> > what's
>> >> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> worst that can happen?  Your book is
>> rejected,
>> >> and so?  It really
>> >> > doesn't
>> >> >> >> hurt anyone.  And most likely the book will
>> be
>> >> accepted, even if it
>> >> > needs
>> >> >> >> a
>> >> >> >> little work.  The collection grows most cuz
>> of
>> >> the work of each of us.
>> >> >> >> IF
>> >> >> >> you need some tips, write the list, that's
>> >> what we're here for.We
>> >> >> >> don't
>> >> >> >> mind.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Always,
>> >> >> >> Allison
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
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