Man I tell you this thread has been very interesting and is two very distinct camps. I for one think all the ideas as I said are worth presenting and if APH decides to make an all inclusive device, those who want it will purchase it, those who don't won't. I don't believe APH will leave current BP owners behind anytime soon, but I'll also point out that I don't have one of these Packmates or whatever its called and unless its small like the BP or not much larger, I wouldn't want to carry it around. I don't carry my laptop everywhere I go cause its not practical and just to use it like a calculator or a clock wouldn't make any sense. Ay you could use your laptop much like a BP without most of the simple functionallity the BP offers. I believe the BP could offer a lot and folks should just give it a chance and see what APH ends up brewing in the backroom. You can bet that whatever it is, everyone will be plenty impressed. The one thing you can be sure of no matter what they do in the end is that if they chose to put a dishwasher in the thing, it would be fully accessible and even put the dishes away in the correct order based on the user's preference. So what I'm saying is that regardless of what folks do or don't want, the BP will serve all needs and serve them well. THe BP has had an outstanding track record despite some issues and I've never seen where APH has avoided handling any problems taht arrise so this shows they are committed to supporting and developing products that work. No one can deny this. The previous statements were not encouraged, paid for, or beatten out of me by Larry, Jake, Liz, or anyone else at APH or connected to Blind Cool Tech. Of course Larry I'll take a couple of beers...grin