Fine, we choose to disagree. There's no right or wrong answer insofar as this discussion is concerned. This is a philosophical debate over what should be involved in the evolution of a piece of consumer equipment and neither of us has a monopoly on truth, justice, or the American way. in the ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Hill" <hillco@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 5:37 PM Subject: [bookport] Re: new unit proposal I disagree; any feature that doesn't compromise reliability, or add cost but does relate to the core mission, makes sense to add. If you want a unit that wasn't really designed for students, I suggest the book courier. On Wed, 21 Sep 2005 17:31:19 -0400, you wrote: >To many of us, it matters more than any other consideration. I didn't buy a >PDA; I already own a PAC Mate if I want that kind of functionality. I >bought >a reading system, which was the original design intent. Using this logic, >it >would make perfect sense to add Internet connectivity, e-mail, and anything >else that a sufficient number of people argue would "improve" the device, >even if such "improvements" have absolutely nothing to do with the original >design intent. Some people might use their Book Ports to drive nails, too, >but that's no rational argument in favor of making the case out of heavy >steel. When use becomes misuse of the original design intent, it's time to >stop. > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Chris Hill" <hillco@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 5:13 PM >Subject: [bookport] Re: new unit proposal > > >Does it really matter what the original design was for, or is it more >important to examine how the unit is currently used. I use my >bookport for reading text, listening to audio, and keeping track of >information while I'm on the road. A student may well wish to have a >calculator in such a small device, and the student market is one that >APH seems to take quite seriously. > >On Wed, 21 Sep 2005 16:00:34 -0500, you wrote: > >>My only question is, is the Bookport a device whose design is primarily >>for reading either audio or text? >>If so, what does a calculator have to do with reading? >>Supporting larger audio/mp3 files, that makes sense. >>Faster processing of audio files by the transfer tool, that makes sense. >>A calculator simply doesn't seem to fit the purpose for the device. >>I could even see an alarm feature, since reading is such a wonderful >>escape. >>One might wish to have an alarm to advise you that you've read long >>enough and that it is time to do some real work! >>(smile) >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>[mailto:bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of LARRY SKUTCHAN >>Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 2:01 PM >>To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>Subject: [bookport] Re: new unit proposal >> >> >>No, it would not increase the price nor hinder any other function in any >>way. >> >> >>>>> slicht@xxxxxxxxx Thursday, September 15, 2005 12:18:35 PM >>> >>I'll answer your question with a question. What about it, Larry, >>Pamela, >>Rob? Would a calculator increase BP's price or hinder the firmware in >>any >>way? If not, I guess it would be okay to have. My math is so bad, I >>might >>even use it once in a blue moon. >> >>At 10:37 AM 9/15/2005, you wrote: >>>Here's my question to you. First of all, I don't care about a >>calculator >>>myself. But: If a calculator were added, if the calculator did not >>>increase the price, if other functionality were not impaired, would >>you >>>have any objection to its being there? I ask this because, on the Book >> >>>Courier list, someone was saying that one of the benefits of the BC of >>the >>>BP was that the BC doesn't have a notetaker function, which that >>person >>>doesn't need. To which my response would be, As long as it doesn't get >>in >>>the way, what's the problem with having it there? I say the same thing >> >>>about a calculator feature which, as I've said, I can take or leave. >>If a >>>calculator function will increase the price, that's another issue, or >>if >>>it will decrease room for firmware revisions that would enhancing the >>book >>>reading experience, that's another story as well. But if any given >>feature >>>does not get in one's way, why not include it? I'm not referring to >>anyone >>>here specificaly, but the attitude I see time and time again on the >>>various lists I'm on is that "if I don't use it, it's a bad idea." >>That's >>>why descriptive video is not as prevalent, especially in the States, >>as it >>>should be. >>> >>>Bruce >>> >>>-- >>>Bruce Toews >>>E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: dogriver@xxxxxxxx >>>Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): >>http://www.ogts.net >>>Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com >>> >>>On Thu, 15 Sep 2005, Sandy Licht wrote: >>> >>>>This is my opinion, and I'm not putting anyone down for thinking >>>>differently. I don't like the calculator idea at all. Talking >>>>calculators are relatively inexpensive. >>>> >>>>At 08:48 AM 9/15/2005, you wrote: >>>>>I like the calculator idea. I think the synthesizer idea has >>outlived >>>>>its usefulness with all the speech programs I know of installing >>their >>>>>own software speech these days. >>>>> >>>>>On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 08:22:13 -0500, you wrote: >>>>> > Think of how much more useful the unit could be. I know >>doubletalk would >>>>> > probably charge money for the synth option, but it could all be >>done in >>>>> > firmware, maybe there could be a special firmware users would >>have to pay >>>>> > for if they wanted the synth. >>>>> > The calculator I think should be more considered, it would hardly >> >>>>> take > any >>>>> > extra space nor time to develop at least a simple one; and we all >> >>>>> could > use >>>>> > a calculator now and then. >>>>> > > > -----Original Message----- >>>>> > From: bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>>>> [mailto:bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] >>>>> > On Behalf Of David Allen >>>>> > Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 5:57 AM >>>>> > To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> > Subject: [bookport] Re: new unit proposal >>>>> > > Hi Kevin and list: >>>>> > > Yes, both have been thought of. Neither is justified in the >>context >>>>> of a >>>>> > portable device whose reason for being is to read books. If you >>>>> still > need a >>>>> > > USB synthesiser, it is available as the Tripple talk. >>>>> > > Cheers, >>>>> > Dave >>>>> > > >>>> >>>>Sandy Licht >>>>Phone: 409-898-8218 >>>>Jeremiah 29:11 - 14A >>>>11For I know the plans I have for you," says the LORD. "They >>>>are plans for good and not for disaster, to give you a future and a >>hope. >>>>12In those days when you pray, I will listen. 13If you look for me in >>earnest, >>>>you will find me when you seek me. 14I will be found by you," says >>the >>>>LORD... >>>> >> >>Sandy Licht >>Phone: 409-898-8218 >>Jeremiah 29:11 - 14A >>11For I know the plans I have for you," says the LORD. "They >>are plans for good and not for disaster, to give you a future and a >>hope. >>12In those days when you pray, I will listen. 13If you look for me in >>earnest, >>you will find me when you seek me. 14I will be found by you," says the >> >>LORD... >> >> >> > >