Larry, I think with Liz, the dogs, your daughters, and the little girl, we've got a real soundscape opportunity here. Man Michelle is a real hoot, actually the lot are a hoot. You know come to think of it, the mics on Jake would add a whole new perspective to podcasting we hadn't thought of. grin Oh and Bruce, trust me, beer and cofee can be quite tasty, but not together and yes a water machine would be included, even us junkies need a break now and then...grin