Thanks! Barbara Peter Spitz <peterspitz101@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: just sold my barely used BPP to a friend overseas. I just wasn't using it often as I have other ways to read books and preferred them. It is purely a personal choice, not at all is it a slam against the BP. In my opinion, for what it's worth, I would just keep the new Bookport that you just bought and enjoy it. It's a great unit and the newer model will not be so great that you will regret or not be able to use your first version. The software will still be updated. The new improvements will certainly be nice but if you bought a new car (not that we blinks would buy a car!) this year wouldn't you expect next year's model to have some improvements? It doesn't mean your current car is no good. Alspo, improvements or additions to newer models are often part of the marketing strategy to keep people buying the product and to get the prior customers to upgrade. In the car business where I used to work, we called that Brand Loyalty. Nothing sinister or misleading, just a good way to remain viable in a tough market. We can all list about one hundred things to change about our Bookports whether we have the current or the future model. I wish it had a cellphone option and a storage space for cold snaks and water. A tissue box would be nice too. By the time I am done improving it, it would wiegh more than I do. And that's a LOT! Don't be remorseful about our BP, it's a great unit. Buyer's Remorse is the most frequent emotion after a big or long awaited purchse. Heck, you probably had that sinking feeling right after you got married or had a baby or bought a house. I've had that questioning in my mind over what fast food place I decided to go to. If you have a membership to Bookshare, your BP will work just fine and you will have way too much to read for the rest of your life. Peter -----Original Message----- From: FreeLists Mailing List Manager [mailto:ecartis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 12:48 AM To: bookport digest users Subject: bookport Digest V4 #145 bookport Digest Sun, 27 May 2007 Volume: 04 Issue: 145 In This Issue: [bookport] Re: Is the book port more then I need [bookport] Re: Is the book port more then I need [bookport] Re: Is the book port more then I need [bookport] Re: Is the book port more then I need [bookport] Re: Tp Rick, [bookport] Re: Is the book port more then I need [bookport] Re: Is the book port more then I need [bookport] Re: how do you use the find [bookport] Re: how do you use the find [bookport] Re: how do you use the find [bookport] Re: how do you use the find [bookport] Re: Is the book port more then I need ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tim Snyder" Subject: [bookport] Re: Is the book port more then I need Date: Sun, 27 May 2007 06:48:07 -0400 Hi Barbara, If I didn't have to have it now, I would wait for the new model. If, at that time, you do not like the new model, you will probably be able to find a good used model at a great price since some people have the money and will want to upgrade to the new model. Of course, you take your chances with used equipment but you might end up saving a good deal of money that way. It has also been said that the old book port will not be support when all of the old parts for repair are gone. That would be a great price to wait and not pay full price for an old book port. I don't know what APH's return policy is, but the clock is ticking. Tim ----- Original Message ----- From: Barbara To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 12:04 AM Subject: [bookport] Re: Is the book port more then I need Hi, I am a new user, too. I wrote an e-mail a couple of days ago. Should I return my Book Port and get the newer model when it comes out? Is the newer model going to be more expensive? When NLS becomes digital, does anyone know whether they are going to give out their digital equipment or am I better off getting the newer Book Port model which will play NLS books, as well? I practically never read NLS books but I figure that if I am going to buy Book Port, I might as well get the newer, better model. What else will the newer model be able to do besides read NLS Books and retain the older features of the current model? It is nice to have Book Port right now, but I can wait for the newer model if I have to. If you were I, what would you do? I need some advice because, as you know, the machine is expensive and since some of you are into testing the new product, you might know more about it than I do. Barbara Robert Clark wrote: Christie, Keep using it,. It will grow on you the more you use it. Just use it for your books and music and as you learn how to use it you might go from there. *---* *---* *---* *---* *---* We could certainly slow the aging process down if it had to work its way through Congress. --Will Rogers Robert & Dreamer Doll (Guide Dawggie) Newport, Oregon N24C 3G 8/2000 Hookup rclark0276@xxxxxxxxxxx http://webpages.charter.net/dog_guide/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 May 2007 08:55:58 -0400 From: "Keens" Subject: [bookport] Re: Is the book port more then I need Thanks for all the info and advice! I am shocked to see that a new model is coming out in just a few months! I will call APH on Tuesday and see what the cost is going to be and what new features it will have. I am some what upset that this was not mentioned to me when I made my purchase just last week. I am so glad I joined this list! Many thanks, Christie ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 May 2007 08:00:12 -0500 From: Sandy Licht Subject: [bookport] Re: Is the book port more then I need None of us are testing the newer model. There isn't even a prototype of it. Bookport2 won't be released until sometime in the fall. It will have capabilities to do a lot more than what the old one does. Check out ACB Radio's Main Menu for an interview with Larry. That way you can make your own decision. The new BP will be more expensive than the older model, but we don't know how much more. At 11:04 PM 5/26/2007, Barbara wrote: >Hi, > >I am a new user, too. I wrote an e-mail a couple of days ago. Should >I return my Book Port and get the newer model when it comes out? Is >the newer model going to be more expensive? When NLS becomes >digital, does anyone know whether they are going to give out their >digital equipment or am I better off getting the newer Book Port >model which will play NLS books, as well? I practically never read >NLS books but I figure that if I am going to buy Book Port, I might >as well get the newer, better model. What else will the newer model >be able to do besides read NLS Books and retain the older features >of the current model? It is nice to have Book Port right now, but I >can wait for the newer model if I have to. If you were I, what would >you do? I need some advice because, as you know, the machine is >expensive and since some of you are into testing the new product, >you might know more about it than I do. > >Barbara > >Robert Clark wrote: >Christie, >Keep using it,. It will grow on you the more you use it. Just use it >for your books and music and as you learn how to use it you might go from >there. > >*---* *---* *---* *---* *---* >We could certainly slow the aging process down if it had to work its way >through Congress. >--Will Rogers >Robert & Dreamer Doll (Guide Dawggie) >Newport, Oregon >N24C 3G 8/2000 Hookup >rclark0276@xxxxxxxxxxx >http://webpages.charter.net/dog_guide/ > > > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.0/819 - Release Date: >5/26/2007 10:47 AM Sandy Licht Jeremiah 29:11 - 14 A . 11 For I know the plans I have for you," says the Lord. "They are plans for good and not for disaster, to give you a future and a hope. 12 In those days when you pray, I will listen. 13 If you look for me in earnest, you will find me when you seek me. 14 I will be found by you," says the Lord. ------------------------------ From: "Robert Clark" Subject: [bookport] Re: Is the book port more then I need Date: Sun, 27 May 2007 08:26:14 -0700 Christie and list, APH has done nothing wrong. The new BP is not even off the drawing board. No one has seen one yet. The new BP will offer what the current one does and add more features later, but who knows how long before that comes around? They promise the fall but its not carved in stone. You cannot hold them to that, its not realistic. If you have the BP now, you have 30 days to return it so why not use that time to try it out? I got mine the day before I heard of this new BP but elected to keep it because I have it while the new model may be delivered, when? No onw knows for certain. Meantime, I am enjoying my BP. *---* *---* *---* *---* *---* Ambivalent? Well yes and no. Robert & Dreamer Doll (Guide Dawggie) Newport, Oregon N24C 3G 8/2000 Hookup rclark0276@xxxxxxxxxxx http://webpages.charter.net/dog_guide/ ------------------------------ From: "lana" Subject: [bookport] Re: Tp Rick, Date: Sun, 27 May 2007 10:07:41 -0600 normally it does, but on some .brf books, you get big leaps. Sometimes the percentage thing works better.. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ann" To: Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2007 6:02 PM Subject: [bookport] Re: Tp Rick, > Hi folks, > > I just got a bookport, and am still learning my way around. But, have > you tried pressing the 7 or 9 keys while reading/ I think this is > suppose to move you one page at a time, 9 moves forward, and 7 moves back. > > ~Ann > > ------------------------------ From: "lana" Subject: [bookport] Re: Is the book port more then I need Date: Sun, 27 May 2007 10:29:44 -0600 You can read a lot of books before the new one comes out. Also, I like to whait a while on a new device till the real computer people work out all the bugs I probably couldn't deal with. From what I've heard, the update for NLS books won't be till later. I'm holding mine till that happens. That way I'll know I'm getting all I want. Remember, there's not just audible and Web Braille, but Bookshare. As long as you have a working computer, you'll never run out of something to read. ENJOY!!1! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Clark" To: Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 9:26 AM Subject: [bookport] Re: Is the book port more then I need > Christie and list, > APH has done nothing wrong. The new BP is not even off the drawing > board. No one has seen one yet. The new BP will offer what the current one > does and add more features later, but who knows how long before that comes > around? They promise the fall but its not carved in stone. You cannot hold > them to that, its not realistic. > > If you have the BP now, you have 30 days to return it so why not use > that time to try it out? I got mine the day before I heard of this new BP > but elected to keep it because I have it while the new model may be > delivered, when? No onw knows for certain. Meantime, I am enjoying my BP. > > *---* *---* *---* *---* *---* > Ambivalent? Well yes and no. > Robert & Dreamer Doll (Guide Dawggie) > Newport, Oregon > N24C 3G 8/2000 Hookup > rclark0276@xxxxxxxxxxx > http://webpages.charter.net/dog_guide/ > > > ------------------------------ From: "Robert Clark" Subject: [bookport] Re: Is the book port more then I need Date: Sun, 27 May 2007 09:43:25 -0700 Thats right Lana, and let me add, that now is the time to enjoy because we dont know what tomorrow will bring let alone if it comes at all. *---* *---* *---* *---* *---* Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it. -- Steven Wright Robert & Dreamer Doll (Guide Dawggie) Newport, Oregon N24C 3G 8/2000 Hookup rclark0276@xxxxxxxxxxx http://webpages.charter.net/dog_guide/ ------------------------------ From: "solsticesinger" Subject: [bookport] Re: how do you use the find Date: Sun, 27 May 2007 16:33:57 -0500 Not to sound stupid, but where on the book port is there an enter key? Shannon ----- Original Message ----- From: Simon Jaeger To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 8:10 PM Subject: [bookport] Re: how do you use the find actually, you can press 8+9 to search forwards with the current text and 7+8 to search backwards, but enter from the find prompt. ----- Original Message ----- From: Simon Jaeger To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 6:07 PM Subject: [bookport] Re: how do you use the find you press enter. ----- Original Message ----- From: Cathy To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 5:31 PM Subject: [bookport] how do you use the find Hi: I was wondering, how do you use the find command. I know to hit the 7 plus 8 plus and inter the text I want to find, but after I get out of braille keyboard how do you get the bookport to find the text? I hope I am clear in what I am wanting to do. I know there are 2 ways to find text, so maybe some one should give me step by step instructions. I have looked in the manual, but for some reason, I don't seem to be able to do it when I try to use it. I think, what I need is the info on the computer so I can follow them as I go. After I do it a few times, I think I will be able to do it from memory. I am the kind of person that has to do it a few times and usually I can remember how to do it then. Thanks in advance for those that will try to help me out. Cathy and Pilot Dog Deena, and Retired guide, Copper, both golden retrievers, Kindness is the language which the deaf can hear and the blind can see. ~Mark Twain ------------------------------ From: "David Allen" Subject: [bookport] Re: how do you use the find Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 09:59:17 +1200 Hi Shannon and list! You need to be using the book port's Braille keyboard, so you turn the unit 90 degrees clockwise. Now, enter is the far right key in the middle row. This is also the 2 key. Cheers, Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "solsticesinger" To: Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 9:33 AM Subject: [bookport] Re: how do you use the find Not to sound stupid, but where on the book port is there an enter key? Shannon ----- Original Message ----- From: Simon Jaeger To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 8:10 PM Subject: [bookport] Re: how do you use the find actually, you can press 8+9 to search forwards with the current text and 7+8 to search backwards, but enter from the find prompt. ----- Original Message ----- From: Simon Jaeger To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 6:07 PM Subject: [bookport] Re: how do you use the find you press enter. ----- Original Message ----- From: Cathy To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 5:31 PM Subject: [bookport] how do you use the find Hi: I was wondering, how do you use the find command. I know to hit the 7 plus 8 plus and inter the text I want to find, but after I get out of braille keyboard how do you get the bookport to find the text? I hope I am clear in what I am wanting to do. I know there are 2 ways to find text, so maybe some one should give me step by step instructions. I have looked in the manual, but for some reason, I don't seem to be able to do it when I try to use it. I think, what I need is the info on the computer so I can follow them as I go. After I do it a few times, I think I will be able to do it from memory. I am the kind of person that has to do it a few times and usually I can remember how to do it then. Thanks in advance for those that will try to help me out. Cathy and Pilot Dog Deena, and Retired guide, Copper, both golden retrievers, Kindness is the language which the deaf can hear and the blind can see. ~Mark Twain ------------------------------ From: "Robert Clark" Subject: [bookport] Re: how do you use the find Date: Sun, 27 May 2007 15:05:11 -0700 Shannon, There is no enter key as such. Read the manual that talks about Braille input and it will then become clear. I havent used this feature yet but it sounds simple. *---* *---* *---* *---* *---* Anything worth fighting for is worth fighting dirty for. Robert & Dreamer Doll (Guide Dawggie) Newport, Oregon N24C 3G 8/2000 Hookup rclark0276@xxxxxxxxxxx http://webpages.charter.net/dog_guide/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 May 2007 18:06:59 -0400 From: "Don Barrett" Subject: [bookport] Re: how do you use the find Nothing stupid about your question. The enter key is only active in the Find mode. It is the normal two key, but when in find, it is the enter key. It may also be active in the Notes mode, but I don't know. -----Original Message----- From: bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of solsticesinger Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 5:34 PM To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bookport] Re: how do you use the find Not to sound stupid, but where on the book port is there an enter key? Shannon ----- Original Message ----- From: Simon Jaeger To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 8:10 PM Subject: [bookport] Re: how do you use the find actually, you can press 8+9 to search forwards with the current text and 7+8 to search backwards, but enter from the find prompt. ----- Original Message ----- From: Simon Jaeger To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 6:07 PM Subject: [bookport] Re: how do you use the find you press enter. ----- Original Message ----- From: Cathy To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 5:31 PM Subject: [bookport] how do you use the find Hi: I was wondering, how do you use the find command. I know to hit the 7 plus 8 plus and inter the text I want to find, but after I get out of braille keyboard how do you get the bookport to find the text? I hope I am clear in what I am wanting to do. I know there are 2 ways to find text, so maybe some one should give me step by step instructions. I have looked in the manual, but for some reason, I don't seem to be able to do it when I try to use it. I think, what I need is the info on the computer so I can follow them as I go. After I do it a few times, I think I will be able to do it from memory. I am the kind of person that has to do it a few times and usually I can remember how to do it then. Thanks in advance for those that will try to help me out. Cathy and Pilot Dog Deena, and Retired guide, Copper, both golden retrievers, Kindness is the language which the deaf can hear and the blind can see. ~Mark Twain ------------------------------ From: "Kasondra Payne" Subject: [bookport] Re: Is the book port more then I need Date: Sun, 27 May 2007 16:54:33 -0600 Christie, I am a student, a wife, a mother, and the bookport is wonderful! I read all my school books while I cleaned the house last semester. I also read other books and magazines from bookshare.org. Enjoy this fabulous machine. Kasondra Payne No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.0/821 - Release Date: 5/27/2007 3:05 PM ------------------------------ End of bookport Digest V4 #145 ****************************** Barbara