[bookport] Re: bookport Digest V2 #116
- From: "Lou Kolb" <loukolb@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 20:45:53 -0400
Pete,
Did you try deleting the folder and then recreating it and putting a few
titles in to see whether the sluggishness is still there?
----- Original Message -----
From: "ptorpey" <ptorpey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 7:53 PM
Subject: [bookport] Re: bookport Digest V2 #116
> Well, I don't understand this behavior either for a CF card. Maybe I can
> never use this folder again and must eventually delete it? This would
mean
> that you can't keep on putting books in a particular directory, wiping
them
> out, putting more, etc. without leading to degraded responsiveness.
>
> In either case, this is very strange performance. Maybe the folks at APH
> can enlighten us.
>
> -- Pete
>
> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 11:35:47 -0400
> From: "MICHAEL MCCARTY" <mmccarty@xxxxxxx>
> Subject: [bookport] Re: Sluggishness and number of books in folders
>
> I was going at it from the aspect of files that you delete are not
> really gone, but hidden from a users general use. I guess I was
> thinking that the data, even though not used by the user, is still
> there? Maybe I'm off with this thought?
>
>
>
> Michael McCarty
> Fred's Head Database Coordinator
> American Printing House for the Blind
> www.aph.org
>
> >>> sduck@xxxxxxxxx 04/27/05 10:48AM >>>
> Mike,
> I don't think that defragmenting a flash card improves access speed
> any.
> When you defragment a hard drive, you improve access time because the
> read/write head doesn't have to move around as much looking for the
> information that it needs. Because a flash card is memory, it doesn't
> have
> any parts that have to move around, looking for information.
> Therefore,
> defragmentation of a flash card doesn't do anything, from a practical
> sense.
> At least this is my understanding.
> Thanks,
> Scott
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "MICHAEL MCCARTY" <mmccarty@xxxxxxx>
> To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 7:26 AM
> Subject: [bookport] Re: Sluggishness and number of books in folders
>
>
> > Would running a Disk Defragger help to resolve this issue?
> >
> >
> >
> > Michael McCarty
> > Fred's Head Database Coordinator
> > American Printing House for the Blind
> > www.aph.org
> >
> > >>> ptorpey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 04/26/05 08:28PM >>>
> > I wrote to Larry and Rob off-line about this issue earlier today
> since
> > I
> > didn't have access to my e-mail account which was subscribed to this
> > DL.
> > Anyway, I have more information on this problem now.
> > My earlier report indicated that the responsiveness of the Bookport
> was
> > very
> > slow for reading/navigating a book under the following conditions:
> >
> > 1. I am using the latest firmware (beta 27) and Bookport Transfer
> > (version x.x.423)
> > 2. This was a DAISY formatted book from Bookshare.
> > 3. There were about 30 books in the folder.
> > 4. The surprise (to me at least) was that the first 25 or so books
> > in
> > the folder had no problems. Reading/navigation was very responsive
> > with
> > these books. However, all books loaded onto the Bookport after the
> > 25th or
> > so book had the problem of poor responsiveness when reading.
> > 5. Although APH has pointed out that we should minimize the number
> > of
> > books in any folder, I (mistakenly) thought that this only led to
> > sluggishness when navigating from book to book, and not within a
> > particular
> > book. I guess this assumption was wrong.
> >
> > Since the "problem" books were all loaded recently (during the last
> > beta or
> > two), I thought that there might be a problem with either the newest
> > beta
> > firmware and/or transfer software. That appears not to be the case,
> > and
> > this seems to be more of a systemic problem.
> >
> > This evening, I performed the following tests to shed more light on
> > the
> > behavior and causes:
> >
> > 1. Re-downloaded one of the "problem" books into a new folder with
> > only
> > this book as an entry. Result - responsiveness was normal - no
> > problem
> > 2. Re-loaded one of the "problem" books into the original folder
> > containing 30 or so books. Result: This appeared to overwrite the
> > original
> > book (the re-loaded book now appeared last in the list of books),
> and
> > responsiveness was still a big problem.
> > 3. Deleted all but about 5 books in the original folder of about
> > 30
> > books. Result: Even with fewer books now in the folder, the
> "problem"
> > book
> > still exhibited the very poor responsiveness it did when the folder
> > was
> > full.
> > 4. Deleted the "problem" book from the original folder (now
> > containing
> > only about 5 books), and re-loaded it into this folder. Result -
> The
> > book
> > STILL exhibited very poor responsiveness.
> >
> > Thus, it seems like once a folder gets clustered with too many books
> > that:
> > A. The responsiveness of reading/navigation within books loaded
> > last in
> > the folder will suffer.
> > B. Even if books are deleted from a once crowded folder, any newly
> > added books will suffer from poor responsiveness when
> > reading/navigating
> > within the book.
> >
> > Does this make sense? Do folders somehow get "trashed" if once
> loaded
> > up
> > too much or will this occur even if the number of books at any one
> time
> > is
> > kept small but many books are copied and subsequently deleted from
> > this
> > folder?
> >
> > Lastly, can this be rectified? Hopefully these observations are
> > helpful in
> > fixing this behavior if possible.
> >
> > -- Pete
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 14:18:08 -0400
> From: "LARRY SKUTCHAN" <lskutchan@xxxxxxx>
> Subject: [bookport] Firmware Beta 28
>
> Please let us know of any old or new bugs you find in beta 28. We are
> not adding any new features, just bug fixes.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "James Jolley" <james.jolley1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [bookport] Re: Firmware Beta 28
> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 19:31:35 +0100
>
> Hi Lary,
>
> Things seem ok hear, note taking bug certainly fixed.
>
> Best
>
> -James-
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "LARRY SKUTCHAN" <lskutchan@xxxxxxx>
> To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 7:18 PM
> Subject: [bookport] Firmware Beta 28
>
>
> > Please let us know of any old or new bugs you find in beta 28. We are
> > not adding any new features, just bug fixes.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "Liam Martin" <noatman1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [bookport] Re: Firmware Beta 28
> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 18:42:20 +0000
>
> I was knocked off the mailing list for a couple of days and missed Beta
27.
> Just wondering, what was the note taker bug that is now fixed?
>
> Liam
> >From: "James Jolley" <james.jolley1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Reply-To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Subject: [bookport] Re: Firmware Beta 28
> >Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 19:31:35 +0100
> >
> >Hi Lary,
> >
> >Things seem ok hear, note taking bug certainly fixed.
> >
> >Best
> >
> >-James-
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "LARRY SKUTCHAN" <lskutchan@xxxxxxx>
> >To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 7:18 PM
> >Subject: [bookport] Firmware Beta 28
> >
> >
> > > Please let us know of any old or new bugs you find in beta 28. We are
> > > not adding any new features, just bug fixes.
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 14:40:28 -0400
> From: "MICHAEL MCCARTY" <mmccarty@xxxxxxx>
> Subject: [bookport] Re: Firmware Beta 28
>
> I will, as soon as I can get home to download the update. I can't get
> it at APH because of the lockouts. It's like having someone holding my
> hand while I work, very annoying.
>
>
>
> Michael McCarty
> Fred's Head Database Coordinator
> American Printing House for the Blind
> www.aph.org
>
> >>> lskutchan@xxxxxxx 04/27/05 02:18PM >>>
> Please let us know of any old or new bugs you find in beta 28. We are
> not adding any new features, just bug fixes.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "Claude Everett" <claudeeverett@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [bookport] which one to buy?
> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 12:27:39 -0700
>
> Hello, list,
> Well, it looks as though, that the Book Port and BookCourier, from
> watching the discussion on the lists, still have plenty of individual bugs
> to work out.
>
> Without getting too, technical, if anyone can these days. what features
> convinced you, to buy the devise, you bought?
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "James Jolley" <james.jolley1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [bookport] Re: Firmware Beta 28
> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 20:29:02 +0100
>
> Hi,
>
> Basicly, it fixes the issue where the unit didn't report the line number
> correctly on new note files. It was one of the bugs I reported. I
> understand that your not looking for features but i'll suggest it for a
> future upgrade. How about having a volume increment setting in the
settings
> list to define how much it moves up when holding the F Key down? What do
> people think?
>
> -James-
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Liam Martin" <noatman1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 7:42 PM
> Subject: [bookport] Re: Firmware Beta 28
>
>
> >I was knocked off the mailing list for a couple of days and missed Beta
27.
> > Just wondering, what was the note taker bug that is now fixed?
> >
> > Liam
> >>From: "James Jolley" <james.jolley1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>Reply-To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>Subject: [bookport] Re: Firmware Beta 28
> >>Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 19:31:35 +0100
> >>
> >>Hi Lary,
> >>
> >>Things seem ok hear, note taking bug certainly fixed.
> >>
> >>Best
> >>
> >>-James-
> >>----- Original Message -----
> >>From: "LARRY SKUTCHAN" <lskutchan@xxxxxxx>
> >>To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 7:18 PM
> >>Subject: [bookport] Firmware Beta 28
> >>
> >>
> >> > Please let us know of any old or new bugs you find in beta 28. We
are
> >> > not adding any new features, just bug fixes.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "Lou Kolb" <loukolb@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [bookport] Re: which one to buy?
> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 15:49:17 -0400
>
> I bought the BP nearly 2 years ago. At the time, I felt that the slightly
> higher price of the BP was more than offset by the longer list of file
types
> it handled. I also knew APH to be a solid organization which would likely
> be supportive of and responsive to it's customers. I've seen nothing in
the
> interim to make me regret my decision. However, I must add that not
having
> a Book Courier, I can't comment knowledgably on it's strengths and
> weaknesses. Lou
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Claude Everett" <claudeeverett@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 3:27 PM
> Subject: [bookport] which one to buy?
>
>
> > Hello, list,
> > Well, it looks as though, that the Book Port and BookCourier, from
> watching the discussion on the lists, still have plenty of individual bugs
> to work out.
> >
> > Without getting too, technical, if anyone can these days. what features
> convinced you, to buy the devise, you bought?
> >
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Subject: [bookport] Re: Firmware Beta 28
> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 14:54:25 -0500
> From: "Sarah Cranston" <cranston.sarah@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
> I like the volume suggestion, people could have the best of both worlds.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of James Jolley
> Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 2:29 PM
> To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [bookport] Re: Firmware Beta 28
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Basicly, it fixes the issue where the unit didn't report the line number =
>
> correctly on new note files. It was one of the bugs I reported. I=20
> understand that your not looking for features but i'll suggest it for a=20
> future upgrade. How about having a volume increment setting in the =
> settings=20
> list to define how much it moves up when holding the F Key down? What =
> do=20
> people think?
>
> -James-
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----=20
> From: "Liam Martin" <noatman1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 7:42 PM
> Subject: [bookport] Re: Firmware Beta 28
>
>
> >I was knocked off the mailing list for a couple of days and missed Beta =
> 27.
> > Just wondering, what was the note taker bug that is now fixed?
> >
> > Liam
> >>From: "James Jolley" <james.jolley1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>Reply-To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>Subject: [bookport] Re: Firmware Beta 28
> >>Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 19:31:35 +0100
> >>
> >>Hi Lary,
> >>
> >>Things seem ok hear, note taking bug certainly fixed.
> >>
> >>Best
> >>
> >>-James-
> >>----- Original Message -----
> >>From: "LARRY SKUTCHAN" <lskutchan@xxxxxxx>
> >>To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 7:18 PM
> >>Subject: [bookport] Firmware Beta 28
> >>
> >>
> >> > Please let us know of any old or new bugs you find in beta 28. We =
> are
> >> > not adding any new features, just bug fixes.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
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>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "Grant Hardy" <granthardy@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [bookport] Re: Book port specs
> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 15:19:05 -0700
>
> Yeah I'd be interested in knowing this, myself.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of James Jolley
> Sent: April 27, 2005 3:16 AM
> To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [bookport] Book port specs
>
>
> Hi folks,
> Could one of you guys at APH give us some real memory indicators for what
> the Bookport can handle? I'm interested in exactly how much memory is
> available for fermware upgrades and how much of it is being taken up with
> todays beta version?
>
> Best
>
> -James-
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "brandon hicks" <silverdart12@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [bookport] Re: which one to buy?
> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 16:32:06 -0600
>
> hi,
> i am going to be placing my order for the book port very very soon.
> the reason i decided on the book port was because there have been many
more
> updates, the list is so much more active, the bp supports more filetypes,
> and springer's updates generally don't happen when they are promised.
Also,
> the book port software has many more features than the book courier's,
from
> reading the manuals i'd say that the book port is generally a better
> investment.
> thanks
> brandon
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "Debbie Crafts" <debbiecrafts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [bookport] Re: Beta 27
> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 19:09:41 -0400
>
> Larry,
> What are the time increments used to navigate unindexed files. Love this
> feature, by the way, as I can now use my card reader and save the
Bookport's
> batteries. Thanks.
>
> Debbie Crafts
> Framingham, MA
> debbiecrafts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Skype: DCrafts
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of LARRY SKUTCHAN
> Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 12:48 PM
> To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [bookport] Re: Beta 27
>
>
> Basicaly, if you just copy a file to a card then put that card in BP,
> you can use navigation commands to move through that file. This is a
> great aid in podcasts and other mp3 files.
>
>
> >>> r-carter@xxxxxxx Monday, April 25, 2005 12:43:21 PM >>>
> Hi,
>
> Beta 27 does seem to have fixed the cutting off of phrases in audio
> files.
> I have found no other problems so far.
>
> Could someone explain what you mean by Book Port now supports
> navigation
> for unindexed mp3 files. What has changed. Are you talking about files
> that
> have not been sent via the transfer software? Are you talking about
> files
> that have been sent via the transfer software but that are just
> straight
> mp3 files like podcasts? How does one need to set the software to take
>
> advantage of the navigation? Should the software be sent to treat the
> files
> as music or as audio?I don't see anything about this in the manual. Did
> I
> miss it?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Robert Carter
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "Debbie Crafts" <debbiecrafts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [bookport] possible stability problems with latest software betas
> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 19:38:59 -0400
>
> Hello,
> After downloading the latest betas of both the firmware and the transfer
> tool, I attempted to transfer 21 mp3 files to the Bookport. I was
speeding
> these up, so used the transfer software. After transferring about 16
files,
> Bookport transfer reported that it could not initialize the index file for
> each of the other files to be transferred. When exiting and relaunching
BP
> transfer, was informed that the device was not connected. Unplugging and
> replugging did not help. Was about to reboot, but decided to try
resetting
> the device and that appeared to work, although had to relaunch Transfer
> manually after reconnecting. Just finished transferring the last five
files
> without any further problems, but since I haven't had similar problems
> before, thought it was worth a mention. BTW: had just changed batteries
> before beginning the transfer, so do not think this is the issue.
> Debbie Crafts
> Framingham, MA
> debbiecrafts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Skype: DCrafts
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "Liam Martin" <noatman1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [bookport] Re: Firmware Beta 28
> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 23:41:24 +0000
>
> Larry,
>
> with Beta 26 I was given a message "Spanish unavailable." I had never
heard
> that before, and I thought it was deliberate - the Spanish option being
> temporarily disabled. When I installed Beta 28, the Spanish option "Yes"
or
> "No" returned. But while I was in the Notes folder just now, the BP froze
> and I had to remove the batteries. When I went to reset my options, I got
> the "Spanish unavailable" message for the Spanish option. Any reason for
> this?
>
> Liam
>
> >From: "LARRY SKUTCHAN" <lskutchan@xxxxxxx>
> >Reply-To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Subject: [bookport] Firmware Beta 28
> >Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 14:18:08 -0400
> >
> >Please let us know of any old or new bugs you find in beta 28. We are
> >not adding any new features, just bug fixes.
> >
> >Thanks.
> >
> >
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> From: "Debbie Crafts" <debbiecrafts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [bookport] Re: Removing Folders
> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 19:45:37 -0400
>
> I strongly second that thought! Maybe with a warning and a second confirm
> in the case where the folder to be deleted *does* contain files?
>
> Debbie Crafts
> Framingham, MA
> debbiecrafts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Skype: DCrafts
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of MICHAEL MCCARTY
> Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 8:53 AM
> To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [bookport] Re: Removing Folders
>
>
> Oh, there's a suggestion for the next beta then. I would love to be
> able to remove folders, getting rid of several files at one time. I
> download a lot of podcasts, and that would sure be a great feature.
>
>
> Michael McCarty
> Fred's Head Database Coordinator
> American Printing House for the Blind
> www.aph.org
>
> >>> PRADER@xxxxxxx 04/26/05 08:50AM >>>
> Files can be deleted on the BP, but folders can only be deleted
> through
> the software.
>
> Pamela
>
> >>> mmccarty@xxxxxxx 04/26/05 08:47AM >>>
> Is there a way to remove folders with the BP? I know how to remove
> them
> with the BP software, but can it be done from the BP directly? I do
> the
> "B" and "E" keys, and it says that folders can't be removed.
>
>
>
> Michael McCarty
> Fred's Head Database Coordinator
> American Printing House for the Blind
> www.aph.org
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "Joni Colver" <july77@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [bookport] Re: which one to buy?
> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 19:02:08 -0500
>
> One person who gave me advice on the subject said that APH was more
actively
> involved in upgrading the Book Port and that promised features appeared
more
> quickly in the Port than the Courier. I have seen a lot of nice features
> added since buying my Book Port. It is also quite evident that the APH
> staff solicits and considers suggestions from people on this list and many
> sugggestions have been implemented into new releases.
>
> If you know Braille one big difference now is that the Port has a Braille
> keyboard option to enter search strings and when the new beta is a final
> release there will be the ability to take notes using the Braille
keyboard.
>
> I have never personally seen a Courier, but I haven't regretted my Book
Port
> purchase a year ago for a nanosecond.
>
> Joni
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "Mike Arrigo" <n0oxy@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [bookport] Re: Book port specs
> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 21:16:35 -0500
>
> Actually Larry, I'm curious, you wrote some great programs for the apple,
> and a great screen reader for the pc, do you know how to program at all
for
> those kind of imbedded processors?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "LARRY SKUTCHAN" <lskutchan@xxxxxxx>
> To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 9:22 AM
> Subject: [bookport] Re: Book port specs
>
>
> > We are tight tight tight in terms of available resources for code on
> > Book Port.
> >
> >
> > >>> james.jolley1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Wednesday, April 27, 2005 6:16:06 AM
> > >>>
> > Hi folks,
> > Could one of you guys at APH give us some real memory indicators for
> > what the Bookport can handle? I'm interested in exactly how much memory
> > is available for fermware upgrades and how much of it is being taken up
> > with todays beta version?
> >
> > Best
> >
> > -James-
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "Mike Arrigo" <n0oxy@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [bookport] Re: which one to buy?
> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 21:28:59 -0500
>
> Hi there. I actually have both, and they both have there strong points.
The
> book port is geared a bit more toward blind users, it provides features
such
> as reading by character, the ability to search for pauses in audio files,
> and the ability to change the speed of audio files. The upcoming release
of
> the software will also allow you to write notes, assuming you know
computer
> Braille. The bookcourier has a few things the book port doesn't, namely a
> key describe feature that will describe each key, and it does cost a bit
> less, especially if you're a member of bookshare, or own the kurzweil
1000,
> you can get a discount on a bookcourier this way. I do find the commands
on
> the courier a bit easier to memorize, this is not to say the book port's
> interface is bad, just the way I learn I guess. Both units are exactly the
> same size, and both use 2 aa batteries. Hope this info helps.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Claude Everett" <claudeeverett@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 2:27 PM
> Subject: [bookport] which one to buy?
>
>
> > Hello, list,
> > Well, it looks as though, that the Book Port and BookCourier, from
> watching the discussion on the lists, still have plenty of individual bugs
> to work out.
> >
> > Without getting too, technical, if anyone can these days. what features
> convinced you, to buy the devise, you bought?
> >
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "Grant Hardy" <granthardy@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [bookport] Re: Book port specs
> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 20:26:10 -0700
>
> Which screen reader is that?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Mike Arrigo
> Sent: April 27, 2005 7:17 PM
> To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [bookport] Re: Book port specs
>
>
> Actually Larry, I'm curious, you wrote some great programs for the apple,
> and a great screen reader for the pc, do you know how to program at all
for
> those kind of imbedded processors?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "LARRY SKUTCHAN" <lskutchan@xxxxxxx>
> To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 9:22 AM
> Subject: [bookport] Re: Book port specs
>
>
> > We are tight tight tight in terms of available resources for code on
> > Book Port.
> >
> >
> > >>> james.jolley1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Wednesday, April 27, 2005 6:16:06 AM
> > >>>
> > Hi folks,
> > Could one of you guys at APH give us some real memory indicators for
> > what the Bookport can handle? I'm interested in exactly how much memory
> > is available for fermware upgrades and how much of it is being taken up
> > with todays beta version?
> >
> > Best
> >
> > -James-
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
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>
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