[bookport] Re: THANK YOU GUYS!

  • From: Tyler Wood <tcwood12@xxxxxxx>
  • To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 16:42:43 -0600

I've got to agree on that. Although I do all my personal reading from audio devices (bookport, daisy players, 4-track players, etc etc) I have braille textbooks, braille assignments for school, and mostly braille novels for school. I am thinking on getting this case; it sounds very nice!

Tyler
----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Ring" <ring.richard@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 11:51 AM
Subject: [bookport] Re: THANK YOU GUYS!


What troubles me is that although blind people use talking devices
rather than say, reading Braille, that is not the whole issue.
I think that those who read everything in an audio format and who have
never read much print or Braille tend to be extremely poor spellers and
they also tend to believe that punctuation is not necessary.  I don't
see such messages on this list, but some of the messages that I see on
other lists are absolutely frightening.  One individual was asking a
question concerning how to write papers for class.  In his message there
was not one capital letter, and not one punctuation mark.  Imagine what
those class papers must be like.
I make as many mistakes as the next person, but I do know how to spell
check, and I do ( usually) proofread my messages.
I think it is the considerate thing to do.


-----Original Message-----
From: bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bruce Toews
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 8:28 PM
To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bookport] Re: THANK YOU GUYS!


A good case could be made, though, that blind people are doing the same
thing when they use talking products exclusively and make no attempt to
read for themselves. The resultant grammar, spelling and punctuation
becomes all too apparent on these various mailing lists.

Bruce

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On Wed, 21 Dec 2005, Walt Smith wrote:

Actually, I don't entirely agree that it's simply a matter of visually
appealing controls. Television, the plague of the twentieth century,
has led
directly to an entire generation of people who are too lazy,
illiterate, or
ignorant to be bothered having to learn much of anything that's not
largely
visual in its presentation. Yes, the Internet has contributed to this
and
shouldn't escape blame, but the problem was there long before and has
only
been exacerbated. Witness the replacement of clearly worded statements
with
these mindlessly stupid symbols like a cigarette with a slash through
it to 
indicate and replace "No smoking."

----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Ring" <ring.richard@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 3:44 PM
Subject: [bookport] Re: THANK YOU GUYS!


Actually, what the statement is about is the fact that if something
looks plain, the majority of those who are sighted will ignore it.
Witness, we now have to have touch screens on stoves, washing
machines, 
stereos.  Knobs just weren't visually appealing enough!

-----Original Message-----
From: bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sandy Licht
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 2:34 PM
To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bookport] Re: THANK YOU GUYS!


That statement isn't always true. My husband is sighted, and he is
not 
impressed with that kind of stuff.

At 02:26 PM 12/21/2005, you wrote:
Sighted people can't deal with anything that doesn't have a screen,
and 
lots of glitzy colors!
Their visual attention is unclaimed by anything less.

-----Original Message-----
From: bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Allen
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 2:23 PM
To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bookport] Re: THANK YOU GUYS!


Hi Michael and list:

If Neal's wife weren't sighted, she might appreciate the speech
access 
the
book port provides to information. That isn't to say the sighted
can't 
appreciate such things because some can and very willingly do. But I
suspect
they would be a much smaller minority than non-sighted users. Having
said
that, I am equally aware that there are many blind who don't
appreciate 
the
speech book port provides because of one or more characteristics. To
each
their own.

Cheers,
Dave


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