I certainly second that. But, Richard... Sighted people can be notorious
bad spellers, too. As for punctuation... well, I could use some
improvement at that. My lack of punctuation skills comes from not having
been in school for a very long time. When sending e-mail, if I am at my
computer, I always use spell check. Writing Braille all these years has
messed up my spelling. Contrary to popular belief, spell checkers have
helped me greatly. I tend to remember what I have misspelled. Usually, I
don't make the same mistake twice.
For the most part, sighted people who are avid readers, like my husband,
for example, are excellent spellers and punctuaters.
At 11:51 AM 12/22/2005, you wrote:
What troubles me is that although blind people use talking devices rather than say, reading Braille, that is not the whole issue. I think that those who read everything in an audio format and who have never read much print or Braille tend to be extremely poor spellers and they also tend to believe that punctuation is not necessary. I don't see such messages on this list, but some of the messages that I see on other lists are absolutely frightening. One individual was asking a question concerning how to write papers for class. In his message there was not one capital letter, and not one punctuation mark. Imagine what those class papers must be like. I make as many mistakes as the next person, but I do know how to spell check, and I do ( usually) proofread my messages. I think it is the considerate thing to do.
-----Original Message----- From: bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bruce Toews Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 8:28 PM To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bookport] Re: THANK YOU GUYS!
A good case could be made, though, that blind people are doing the same thing when they use talking products exclusively and make no attempt to read for themselves. The resultant grammar, spelling and punctuation becomes all too apparent on these various mailing lists.
Bruce
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On Wed, 21 Dec 2005, Walt Smith wrote:
> Actually, I don't entirely agree that it's simply a matter of visually > appealing controls. Television, the plague of the twentieth century, has led > directly to an entire generation of people who are too lazy, illiterate, or > ignorant to be bothered having to learn much of anything that's not largely > visual in its presentation. Yes, the Internet has contributed to this and > shouldn't escape blame, but the problem was there long before and has only > been exacerbated. Witness the replacement of clearly worded statements with > these mindlessly stupid symbols like a cigarette with a slash through it to > indicate and replace "No smoking." > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Richard Ring" <ring.richard@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 3:44 PM > Subject: [bookport] Re: THANK YOU GUYS! > > > Actually, what the statement is about is the fact that if something > looks plain, the majority of those who are sighted will ignore it. > Witness, we now have to have touch screens on stoves, washing machines, > stereos. Knobs just weren't visually appealing enough! > > -----Original Message----- > From: bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sandy Licht > Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 2:34 PM > To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [bookport] Re: THANK YOU GUYS! > > > That statement isn't always true. My husband is sighted, and he is not > impressed with that kind of stuff. > > At 02:26 PM 12/21/2005, you wrote: >> Sighted people can't deal with anything that doesn't have a screen, and >> lots of glitzy colors! >> Their visual attention is unclaimed by anything less. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> [mailto:bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Allen >> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 2:23 PM >> To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [bookport] Re: THANK YOU GUYS! >> >> >> Hi Michael and list: >> >> If Neal's wife weren't sighted, she might appreciate the speech access >> the >> book port provides to information. That isn't to say the sighted can't >> appreciate such things because some can and very willingly do. But I >> suspect >> they would be a much smaller minority than non-sighted users. Having >> said >> that, I am equally aware that there are many blind who don't appreciate >> the >> speech book port provides because of one or more characteristics. To >> each >> their own. >> >> Cheers, >> Dave > > Sandy Licht > Phone: 409-898-8218 > Jeremiah 29:11 - 14A > 11For I know the plans I have for you," says the LORD. "They > are plans for good and not for disaster, to give you a future and a > hope. > 12In those days when you pray, I will listen. 13If you look for me in > earnest, > you will find me when you seek me. 14I will be found by you," says the > LORD... > > > > >