[bookport] Subject Lines
- From: "Bruce Toews" <dogriver@xxxxxxxx>
- To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 15:39:31 -0500
On Mon, 19 Mar 2007 16:25:21 -0400, "Chipmunks" <chipmunks@xxxxxxx>
said:
> What does this have to do with Doubletalk?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Doris
> At 03:12 PM 3/19/2007 -0500, you wrote:
>
> >My personal opinion is that somehow officials from Canada and the United
> >states should sit down over a cup of tea or two and work something out
> >so that Canadians can use Bookshare as well as U.S. citizens.
> >Unfortunately, it isn't quite that simple. Bookshare was heavily
> >pressured by the publishers not to allow persons residing in countries
> >outside the U.S. To be able to participate in Bookshare. The initial
> >reason given was that copyright laws in some countries do not fully
> >protect the publishers. I tend to doubt that this would be the case
> >with countries like Canada, the United Kingdom, Australia, New Zealand,
> >France Spain and Germany to name a few.
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >[mailto:bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sandy Licht
> >Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 12:06 AM
> >To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >Subject: [bookport] Re: In defense of Double Talk
> >
> >How would Bruce know that? He is just one Canadian, after all.
> >
> >At 09:32 AM 3/16/2007, William Stephan wrote:
> > >If that's the Case Bruce, why haven't you Canadians developped a
> > >service similar to Bookshare for yourselves?
> > >
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >.From: "Bruce Toews"<DogRiver@xxxxxxxx>
> > >.Sent: 3/15/07 4:17:28 PM
> > >.To: "bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"<bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >.Subject: [bookport] Re: In defense of Double Talk
> > >.
> > >.It's not that simple. Canada does have similar provisions in its
> >copyright
> > >.laws.
> > >.
> > >.Bruce
> > >.
> > >.--
> > >.Bruce Toews
> > >.Skype ID: o.canada
> > >.E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: DogRiver@xxxxxxxx
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> > >.Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries):
> >http://www.ogts.net
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> > >.
> > >.On Thu, 15 Mar 2007, William Stephan wrote:
> > >.
> > >.> Bookshare exists because of a provision in US copyright law. I
> > >guess if other nations built that sort of language into their
> > >copyright laws, Bookshare or a similar entity would be able to
> > >operate for the benefit of their citizens.
> > >.>
> > >.> -----Original Message-----
> > >.> .From: "Richard Ring"<richard.ring@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >.> .Sent: 3/15/07 2:17:15 PM
> > >.> .To: "bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"<bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >.> .Subject: [bookport] Re: In defense of Double Talk
> > >.> .
> > >.> .I completely agree with you, but I think it's going to have to be
> >the
> > >.> .result of some kind of International Copyright agreement. (more
> >stupid
> > >.> .politics)
> > >.> .
> > >.> .
> > >.> .-----Original Message-----
> > >.> .From: bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >.> .[mailto:bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bruce Toews
> > >.> .Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 2:28 PM
> > >.> .To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >.> .Subject: [bookport] Re: In defense of Double Talk
> > >.> .
> > >.> .All we need to do now is get Book Share available to non-Americans
> >so we
> > >.> .can all read instead of being barred by politics.
> > >.> .
> > >.> .Bruce
> > >.> .On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 15:15:47 -0400, "Fred Wurtzel"
> > >.> .<f.wurtzel@xxxxxxxxxxx> said:
> > >.> .> Hello,
> > >.> .>
> > >.> .> I, also have a similar history. I started with a Texas
> >Instruments
> > >.> .> TI-994a
> > >.> .> computer with speech then went to an Apple II plus. What we have
> >now
> > >.> .is
> > >.> .> amazing and a blessing. The computer and Bookport along with
> > >.> .Bookshare
> > >.> .> is
> > >.> .> an unbelievable combination to provide access to printed
> >material. I
> > >.> .> can't
> > >.> .> imagine what a difference this would have made for me in college
> >in
> > >.> .the
> > >.> .> early 70's just after the invention of the cassette tape.
> > >.> .>
> > >.> .> -----Original Message-----
> > >.> .> From: bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >.> .> [mailto:bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > >.> .> On Behalf Of Cy Selfridge
> > >.> .> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 2:50 PM
> > >.> .> To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >.> .> Subject: [bookport] Re: In defense of Double Talk
> > >.> .>
> > >.> .> Hi folks,
> > >.> .> Well, I gues I'll throw in my couple of cents worth here.
> > >.> .> I concur with William and Crystal as I also have been around this
> > >.> .> synthetic
> > >.> .> speech game for a considerable amount of years.
> > >.> .> A long time ago about the only thing which talked was some of the
> >DEC
> > >.> .> terminals which would hook up to some IBM mainframes. They did
> >have
> > >.> .very
> > >.> .> good speech with a German accent and they also cost around
> >$8,000.
> > >.> .> My wife and I were elated to find the Voltrax Type and Talk
> > >.> .synthesizer
> > >.> .> for
> > >.> .> the old Apple II+ because it was only $350 or so. While it was
> >*very*
> > >.> .> limited it was better than nothing.
> > >.> .> Next I migrated up to an IBM compatible micro which was, I think,
> >a
> > >.> .286
> > >.> .> processor with a fantastic speed of about 4Khz.
> > >.> .> On this wonderful piece of equipment I had a Symphonics 215
> >speech
> > >.> .board
> > >.> .> and
> > >.> .> it was, at best, miserable but it also was a lot better than
> >nothing.
> > >.> .> What we have today with Eloquence, Double and Triple Talk along
> >with
> > >.> .the
> > >.> .> SAPI voicesis a true blessing.
> > >.> .> I use the USB Triple Talk on my 3GHZ XP Home computer because I
> >can
> > >.> .> listen
> > >.> .> to JAWS and music independently of each other. When I request a
> >"Read
> > >.> .> All"
> > >.> .> command I get the new SAPI voice through the computer's speakers.
> >Now,
> > >.> .> how
> > >.> .> can you complain about this?
> > >.> .> Cy, the Ancient Okie...
> > >.> .>
> > >.> .> -----Original Message-----
> > >.> .> From: bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >.> .> [mailto:bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > >.> .> On Behalf Of William Stephan
> > >.> .> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 12:34 PM
> > >.> .> To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >.> .> Subject: [bookport] Re: In defense of Double Talk
> > >.> .>
> > >.> .> Crystal's right!
> > >.> .>
> > >.> .> Some of us who've been doing this for a while can still remember
> >when
> > >.> .> synthetic speech sounded about like someone reading through a
> >kazoo.
> > >.> .>
> > >.> .> Since folks can apparently designate whatever speech engine they
> >want
> > >.> .to
> > >.> .> use
> > >.> .> on a file-by-file basis, I'm not sure why which synthesizer is
> >used is
> > >.> .> particularly significant in any case.
> > >.> .>
> > >.> .>
> > >.> .> -----Original Message-----
> > >.> .> .From: "Crystal French"<raincrow@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >.> .> .Sent: 3/15/07 9:25:01 AM
> > >.> .> .To: "bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"<bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >.> .> .Subject: [bookport] In defense of Double Talk .
> > >.> .> .For my two cents, I have no problem with Eloquence, or Double
> >Talk.
> > >.> .> .
> > >.> .> .I have lived enough years to remember only too well a time when
> > >.> .access
> > >.> .> to
> > >.> .> .printed material was very limited.
> > >.> .> .
> > >.> .> .So, Eloquence and Double Talk sound like normal people to me.
> > >.> .> .
> > >.> .> .In fact, Perfect Paul and I have a very nice relationship, thank
> >you
> > >.> .> very
> > >.> .> .much, and I am happy to hear that he will be continued in BP II.
> > >.> .> .
> > >.> .> .Crystal
> > >.> .> .
> > >.> .> .
> > >.> .> .
> > >.> .> .
> > >.> .>
> > >.> .>
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> > >.> .
> > >.> .--
> > >.> .Bruce Toews
> > >.> .E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: dogriver@xxxxxxxx
> > >.> .Website: http://www.ogts.net
> > >.> .Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net
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> > >.> .
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> > >.>
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> > >.
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> >
> >Sandy Licht
> >
> >Jeremiah 29:11 - 14 A .
> >11 For I know the plans I have for you," says the Lord. "They are
> >plans for good and not for disaster, to give you a future and a hope.
> >12 In those days when you pray, I will listen. 13 If you look for me
> >in earnest, you will find me when you seek me. 14 I will be found by
> >you," says the Lord.
> >
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There are some people out there whose crusade it is to let us know every
time a message thread goes off-topic. And this isn't a bad thing: it's
true, we do go off-topic from time to time. But may I suggest that, if
you want to be a charter member of the Topic Police, simply replying to
a message that no longer has a suitable message and asking the totally
rhetorical question of what it has to do with the subject line does not
help? What you are in effect doing is creating yet a third topic of
conversation using the same incorrect subject line as the second, and
the same subjectline as the third. May I respectfully suggest that if
you want to encourage appropriate posting from others, one way to not
gain respect is to post inappropriately about inappropriate posting.
Bruce
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