One question, though. If you get the victor Stream or, eventually, the BookPort 2, could you not just download the books and transfer them via USB? Would you still need to transfer them to a cartridge? _____ From: bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of DanFlasar@xxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 1:13 PM To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bookport] NLS downloadable books Okay, here's some valid information about the NLS books. I've been a beta tester for the NLS download site for their digital talking books. The site already exists and has since at least since early November. Books are being added at a rate of around 100-200/week. We play them on modified Victor Readers (a slot to insert an SD chip was added). It is not the machine that will be distributed. There are about 100 beta testers who keep in touch via listserv in their evaluations of the projects download speed, download errors, navigability of the digital books, problems with unzipping the files, problems in playing the files and so on. The emphasis is on the ease of use of the download site. We have discussed all the questions brought up in this thread many, many times so I will answer them to the best of my ability. 1. Yes, NLS will be distributing a free player to all patrons. This machine will replace the current cassette players, which are no longer being produced. Cassettes will be phased out entirely by 2012. I've seen the machine at a lecture given by the project manager. It will come in two forms - one is a simplified one for those who don't want to do things like add bookmarks or download their own books. The other is the more advanced system similar in function to the Victor Reader. 2. There will be no software reader for the books. So far, they have not been able to come up with an adequate copyright protection mechanism. 3. The books will be available in two ways: you can call your NLS affiliated library (or get on the web as now, choose your book and request it to be mailed to you. The books will come on a special cartridge holding an SD chip. The cartridges must be returned to the library after reading is completed. Cartridges will be available for sale from various sources so you can download your own books. 4. For those so interested (like all of us beta testers and probably all of you), you will be able to go to the website and download your books to your PC or some removable media. But the books must then be transferred to a cartridge. You may, by the way, copy your books from a library cartridge to your PC. You may keep the books, but you may not, of course, distribute them. 5. The machines will be distributed as stated, to veterans first - if they want them, then to those who specifically request them, then to the general readership. Most people are not early adaptors so you should have a good chance of receiving a machine within the next year. The plan is to start sending the first units out in early 2008. 6. I honestly don't know when the site will open up to the general readership - I'd heard this Fall, though. It is moot unless you have a Victor Stream. Someone mentioned a modified Victor Reader such as the ones issued to us. As far as I know, those are NOT for sale they were specifically created for our beta project, but I could be wrong about that. The Bookport 2 is the only other announced NLS digital book reading platform but as we all know, it's not out yet. There will no doubt be others. 7. I have heard that there will be a project to beta test the new players but I have no info on that. 8. Unlike RFB&D books, the NLS books will not be searchable by page number, which was a big disappointment to many of us. But we can navigate, in general, by part, section, heading, chapter and subheading. Really good for magazines, poetry and nonfiction. 9. No, you can't get access to the site, even to look. It is hyper-secured, nor can you join the discussion list. 10. I like the new NLS books very much, I like the new player a lot, I love being able to download books (which can take a bit of time depending on your line speed. If you use a modem, it will take a very long time because these aren't text files - they're audio files. it will be worth the wait, however. An Editorial: I know it's common in some circles to criticize the NLS or the federal government. I feel the need to provide a reality check. It is disingenuous to slam the government or an agency because they are not able to provide a free, and necessary, service like the Talking Books program to us as quickly as we would like. You all know that there was an unexpected snag in funding a month ago. NLS did not get as much funding as needed so a delay is not unreasonable. I don't work for the feds - or any state or local government, nor am I a fan of the current administration. But I consider the service NLS has provided to me ever since I lost my vision to be a lot better than those provided by the private sector which, with rare exceptions, has to be dragged kicking and screaming to provide access to all citizens, regardless of ability or disability. Dan F. _____ See what's free at AOL.com <http://www.aol.com?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000503> .