[bookport] Re: Libraries Offering Audiobook Downloads

  • From: "LARRY SKUTCHAN" <lskutchan@xxxxxxx>
  • To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 15:58:33 -0400

I don't think you will be able to do this.  These books are protected
and will not let you export to text.  There are two ways to extract the
text: perform OCR on the PDF file with a program like Omnipage or use
Adobey Reader's "Read" command and record the reading of the book. 
Either of these two methods is legal only for your own use.

>>> kramk@xxxxxxxx Monday, August 29, 2005 3:36:01 PM >>>
That's great about the Adobe Reader e-book downloads, Pamela. Thanks.

They talk about "activating" Adobe Reader, I suppose to enable the
download. I'm guessing after I download and activate the Adobe Reader,
and then download the e-book into Adobe Reader, I should then be able to
proceed a transfer to Bookport in the usual manner.

Would you agree? 

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of PAMELA RADER
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 2:19 PM
To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Subject: [bookport] Re: Libraries Offering Audiobook Downloads

We have had several communications from the different libraries, due
the lack of the WMA support. 

You should be able to convert files with acrobat reader into text

American Printing House For The Blind
1839 Frankfort Ave.
Louisville, KY  40206

PHONE:  1-800-223-1839, Ext. 307

>>> kramk@xxxxxxxx 08/29/05 02:21PM >>>
Thanks, Neal.


Our local library offers this service but I haven't yet tried it.


My understanding is that Overdrive, the required software for this
audiobook service, is Windows Media Player based. Given that Bookport
doesn't (yet) work with WMA files, I'm guessing Bookport users will
be able to access audiobooks from this source. Can this be confirmed
anyone knowledgeable about this?


Also, our library offers ebook downloads in the Adobe Reader format.
Can these be made accessible to Bookport?


Below is information for our local library site, in case that may


Digital books are the digital versions of print books, and include
downloadable audio books for listening and eBooks for on-screen
Both digital audio books and eBooks can be used on a variety of
such as PCs, laptops, and supported PDAs. This site offers digital
books in the OverDrive Media Console(tm) format, and eBooks in the
Adobe(r) Reader(r) format


To use OverDrive Media Console, you will need to have Windows Media
Player (9 Series or newer). OverDrive Media Console takes advantage of
Windows Media Player support for burning audio books to CD and
transferring files to supported portable devices. To
<http://www.playsforsure.com/FindPortableDevices.aspx>  review a
complete and current list of supported portable devices, click here.


For the latest information on Adobe Reader, click here to visit
 the Adobe Reader product page at Adobe.com.


Thanks for any help.



From: bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Neal Ewers
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 10:27 AM
To: Bookport
Subject: [bookport] Libraries Offering Audiobook Downloads


Libraries Offering Audiobook Downloads

Associated Press

Aug 25, 2005 2:35 PM (ET)




GUILDERLAND, N.Y. (AP) - A new way to borrow audiobooks from the

involves no CDs, no car trips, no fines and no risk of being shushed. 

Rather, public libraries from New York City to Alameda, Calif., are

patrons download Tom Clancy techno-thrillers, Arabic tutorials and

titles to which they can listen on their computers or portable music 

players - all without leaving home.

Librarians say such offerings help libraries stay relevant in the
digital age.

Barbara Nichols Randall, director of the Guilderland Public Library in

suburban Albany, said the library considered the needs of younger

and those too busy to visit.

"This is a way for us to have library access 24/7," she said.

(AP) Visitors to the audiobook section of the Guilderland Public
Library in 

Guilderland, N.Y., on...

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There's still one big hitch, though: The leading library services

Windows-friendly audiobook files that can't be played on Apple

Inc. (AAPL)'s massively popular iPod player.

Vendors such as OverDrive Inc. and OCLC Online Computer Library Center

Inc.'s NetLibrary have licensing deals with publishers and provide

books using Microsoft Corp. (MSFT)'s Windows Media Audio format, which

includes copyright protections designed to help audiobooks stand apart

the often lawless world of song swapping.

A patron with a valid library card visits a library Web site to borrow

title for, say, three weeks. When the audiobook is due, the patron

renew it or find it automatically "returned" in a virtual sense: The

still sits on the patron's computer, but encryption makes it

beyond the borrowing period.

"The patron doesn't have to do anything after the lending period,"

Steve Potash, chief executive of OverDrive. "The file expires. It

itself back into the collection. There's no parts to lose. It's never 

damaged. It can never be late."

Potash said about 1,000 libraries have signed up for OverDrive's

service since its debut late last year. NetLibrary, teaming up with 

Recorded Books, launched a similar service in January and counts 200 

library customers.

Libraries offering audiobook downloads range from large institutions

York and Los Angeles to smaller ones for Cleveland, Ohio, Maricopa

Ariz., North Little Rock, Ark. and Omaha, Neb. The Hawaii State Public

Library System signed up earlier this month.

Guilderland pays NetLibrary about $6,000 a year for more than 850

Randall considers that a good deal, noting that a single audiobook can

the library up to $80 when bought on CD.

Under the NetLibrary program, Guilderland gets a set number of

for all titles each year, and a single title can be borrowed by

patrons simultaneously as long as the cap hasn't been reached.

over the cap cost extra. Patrons must provide their own audio players,

although they may listen on their home computers if they do not have

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Other libraries make different arrangements. OverDrive, for example, 

generally takes a more traditional approach. When a copy is checked
out, no 

other patron may download it until the borrowing period ends.

It's still unclear what impact such services will have on audiobook 

download sales from companies such as Audible Inc. (ADBL), although

analyst suggested it could inspire more sales as patrons buy for keeps

title they had borrowed.

"It's certainly smart for the publishers to do this," said Phil Leigh,

senior analyst with Inside Digital Media.

Digital downloads are a part of a natural progression for libraries,

have evolved from lending books to cassettes and videotapes to CDs and

DVDs. OverDrive recently launched a video download service for

Librarians say they had little interest in audiobook downloads just a

years ago, but they have since noticed what everyone else has: the

of people sporting earbuds on streets, buses and malls.

Nearly 28 million portable audio players were sold last year,

In-Stat, a technology research company. With more than 21 million

iPod remains the signature portable player. But it uses the Advanced

Coding format with FairPlay, its own digital rights management system

one incompatible with Windows' technology.

Just as the lack of a standard digital audio format has fragmented the

music download market, it affects audiobooks.

Users of iPods can still listen to books purchased through sources

audible.com or Apple's own iTunes Music Store, but the library

for now, are geared toward computers and devices that support Windows

Audio files. OverDrive files can be burned to CDs and converted to

friendly formats, but NetLibrary's cannot.

Marge Gammon of NetLibrary said that despite iPod's cache, the company

wanted a product that could be played on a range of devices.

Potash notes there's a growing market of portable audio players, some 

priced lower then $50 (Regular iPod models start at $299, though the

start at $199 and Shuffles at $99).

Apple spokeswoman Natalie Kerris said the company has no plans to

its copy-protection formats and would not comment on the
incompatibility issue.

Librarians say they have heard complaints from iPod users, but there's

little they can do beyond waiting for the industry to sort out its

One California library shunned the download services completely,

because of iPod's popularity. Instead, Newport Beach Public Library

15 iPod Shuffles and loaded them up with audiobooks from iTunes to

out. Patrons are liable for any loss or damage, though librarian

Hansen said there's been no problems so far.


On the Net:

OverDrive's library service:  <http://dlrinc.com/> http://dlrinc.com 

NetLibrary:  <http://netlibrary.com/> http://netlibrary.com 


Neal Ewers
Trace Research and Development Center
http://www.trace.wisc.edu <http://www.trace.wisc.edu/>  


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