were you going to say something here Bruce?
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce Toews" <dogriver@xxxxxxxx>
To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 1:01 PM
Subject: [bookport] Re: [Larry could you contact me re: audible signalsin KY
On Mon, 19 Feb 2007 13:58:16 -0600, "Gary Wunder"
<gwunder@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> said:
> The signals can often be heard as well as felt, they have the advantage
> of
> helping the deaf-blind, and the frequency of the noise they make means
> people who live near them hear nothing. They do not indicate the
> direction
> in which one is to cross, but do show the status of the walk-don't walk
> sign.
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Annette Carr" <amcarr@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 1:54 PM
> Subject: [bookport] Re: [Larry could you contact me re: audible signalsin
> KY
>
>
> > I've heard that in other places where people have complained about the
> > noise
> > of audible signals, or in areas where the traffic noise is so loud that
> > audible signals are useless, that they have installed vibrating signals.
> > Yes, I laughed when I heard this at first. After you press the button
> > and
> > are waiting for the signal to tell you when to cross, you keep your hand
> > on
> > the pole or something, and it will vibrate when it is time to cross.
> >
> > HTH,
> > Annette
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > On Behalf Of Joni Colver
> > Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 2:43 PM
> > To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [bookport] Re: [Larry could you contact me re: audible
> > signalsin
> > KY
> >
> > I am surprised about the complaint.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "bjones" <shawnee@xxxxxxxx>
> > To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 11:54 AM
> > Subject: [bookport] Re: [Larry could you contact me re: audible
> > signalsin
> > KY
> >
> >
> > Well it's involved but I'll try to be as brief as possible.
> > We have 20 audible signals in town of the chirp and cuckoo type.
> > There has been some new construction and the state has installed 3
> > integrated signals such as you use daily. I've worked with the town
> > over
> > the years regarding audible signals but there is a neighborhood group
> > now
> > contending that the signals violate the Mass. Department of
> > Environmental
> > Protection as noise pollution.
> > We have the chirping/cuckoo on main streets but also in neighborhoods
> > without complaint.
> > This man is claiming that we can't put them in his neighborhood. One
> > signal
> > is going to be installed near a home with an autistic child so we
> > already
> > know we have to make some compromises on this signal finding out how to
> > adjust it so that maybe the locator sound could come on approach instead
> > of
> > being on all the time.
> > This is a main street where the signals are installed with constant
> > moving
> > traffic not as busy as where you live but certainly noisy and loud. The
> > family with the autistic child lives across the street from a ball park
> > believe it or not and also a skating rink which can be used late into
> > the
> > night and yet are participating in this complaint of the signal being
> > too
> > noisy.
> > So my question to you is about whether or not there is housing in and
> > around
> > any of the signals in Louisville or is it a business district only?
> > I'm trying to get together a bit of info about where the integrated
> > signals
> > are placed in other cities and towns in case we have to go beyond the
> > information regarding ADA compliance. the signals although not required
> > by
> > the ADA are considered a reasonable accommodation and unless the town
> > can
> > show undue hardship it would be considered a denial of access not to
> > install
> > them. the town has installed 2 of the 3 but it is this last one that
> > has
> > become a huge source of contention. The town is a bit scared off by this
> > man's tactic of using EPA standards but it seems to me if audible
> > signals
> > are installed in so many communities throughout the U.S. we probably
> > aren't
> > violating any EPA laws.
> > Sorry for the length but it needed explanation. By the way our town is
> > more
> > than willing to install this last signal but is a little gun shy due to
> > this
> > man's letter. I have written my own letter pointing out the
> > inaccuracies
> > in
> > his letter about audible signals, the ADA and conflict of disabilities.
> > What a fun way to spend my long weekend!
> > Thanks for any info you can provide.
> > Barbara
> > shawnee@xxxxxxxx
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
> > Behalf Of LARRY SKUTCHAN
> > Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 11:18 AM
> > To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [bookport] Re: [Larry could you contact me re: audible
> > signalsin
> > KY
> >
> >
> > Hi Barbara, what do you need to know about the audible signals? I'll
> > answer to the best of my ability!
> >
> >
> >
> >>>> shawnee@xxxxxxxx Monday, February 19, 2007 10:45:56 AM >>>
> > Hi Larry
> > Sorry I don't have your e-mail address so had to ask through the list.
> > Could you contact me off list?
> > If possible I need to ask you a few questions about the audible signals
> > you
> > use daily.
> > thanks
> > Barbara
> > shawnee@xxxxxxxx
> >
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>
I didn't know you could read traffic signals with a Book Port. <GRIN>
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