[bookport] Re: [Larry could you contact me re: audible signalsin KY

  • From: Sandy Licht <slicht@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 22:51:32 -0600

I've heard it during Larry's podcasts... which I didn't listen to on the BP.

At 02:46 PM 2/19/2007, Doc wrote:
actually its the button you pressed that vibrates. It even vibrates hard
enough to hear it rattle.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Annette Carr" <amcarr@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 12:54 PM
Subject: [bookport] Re: [Larry could you contact me re: audible signalsin KY


I've heard that in other places where people have complained about the noise
of audible signals, or in areas where the traffic noise is so loud that
audible signals are useless, that they have installed vibrating signals.
Yes, I laughed when I heard this at first.  After you press the button and
are waiting for the signal to tell you when to cross, you keep your hand on
the pole or something, and it will vibrate when it is time to cross.

HTH,
Annette


-----Original Message-----
From: bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Joni Colver
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 2:43 PM
To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bookport] Re: [Larry could you contact me re: audible signalsin KY

I am surprised about the complaint.
----- Original Message -----
From: "bjones" <shawnee@xxxxxxxx>
To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 11:54 AM
Subject: [bookport] Re: [Larry could you contact me re: audible signalsin KY


Well it's involved but I'll try to be as brief as possible.
We have 20 audible signals in town of the chirp and cuckoo type.
There has been some new construction and the state has installed 3
integrated signals such as you use daily.  I've worked with the town over
the years regarding audible signals but there is a neighborhood group now
contending that the signals violate the Mass. Department of Environmental
Protection as noise pollution.
We have the chirping/cuckoo on main streets but also in neighborhoods
without complaint.
This man is claiming that we can't put them in his neighborhood. One signal
is going to be installed near a home with an autistic child so we already
know we have to make some compromises on this signal finding out how to
adjust it so that maybe the locator sound could come on approach instead of
being on all the time.
This is a main street where the signals are installed with constant moving
traffic not as busy as where you live but certainly noisy and loud.  The
family with the autistic child lives across the street from a ball park
believe it or not and also a skating rink which can be used late into the
night and yet are participating in this complaint of the signal being too
noisy.
So my question to you is about whether or not there is housing in and around
any of the signals in Louisville or is it a business district only?
I'm trying to get together a bit of info about where the integrated signals
are placed in other cities and towns in case we have to go beyond the
information regarding ADA compliance.  the signals although not required by
the ADA are considered a reasonable accommodation and unless the town can
show undue hardship it would be considered a denial of access not to install
them.  the town has installed 2 of the 3 but it is this last one that has
become a huge source of contention. The town is a bit scared off by this
man's tactic of using EPA standards but it seems to me if audible signals
are installed in so many communities throughout the U.S. we probably aren't
violating any EPA laws.
Sorry for the length but it needed explanation. By the way our town is more
than willing to install this last signal but is a little gun shy due to this
man's letter.  I have written my own letter pointing out the inaccuracies in
his letter about audible signals, the ADA and conflict of disabilities.
What a fun way to spend my long weekend!
Thanks for any info you can provide.
Barbara
shawnee@xxxxxxxx


-----Original Message-----
From: bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
Behalf Of LARRY SKUTCHAN
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 11:18 AM
To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bookport] Re: [Larry could you contact me re: audible signalsin KY


Hi Barbara, what do you need to know about the audible signals?  I'll
answer to the best of my ability!



>>> shawnee@xxxxxxxx Monday, February 19, 2007 10:45:56 AM >>>
Hi Larry
Sorry I don't have your e-mail address so had to ask through the list.
Could you contact me off list?
If possible I need to ask you a few questions about the audible signals
you
use daily.
thanks
Barbara
shawnee@xxxxxxxx

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