So why does CNIB not want a Bookshare. Are they afraid of loosing some of
their power over the blind of Canada or what?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Christine Nieder" <christine-ann@xxxxxxx>
To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 12:27 AM
Subject: [bookport] Re: In defense of Double Talk
: It is true. Canada does have the provisions available. The problem is Canada
: does not have as large of a blind population as the US. We also have issues
: with CNIB shutting people down when an attempt to duplicate a Bookshare
: service happened a couple years ago. There are also so many ways to
: illegally get books these days, many of the blind population honestly don't
: want to bother trying to set up a bookshare here. Its really too bad.
:
: Christine
:
:
: ----- Original Message -----
: From: "Sandy Licht" <slicht@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
: To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
: Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2007 10:05 PM
: Subject: [bookport] Re: In defense of Double Talk
:
:
: > How would Bruce know that? He is just one Canadian, after all.
: >
: > At 09:32 AM 3/16/2007, William Stephan wrote:
: >>If that's the Case Bruce, why haven't you Canadians developped a service
: >>similar to Bookshare for yourselves?
: >>
: >>
: >>-----Original Message-----
: >>.From: "Bruce Toews"<DogRiver@xxxxxxxx>
: >>.Sent: 3/15/07 4:17:28 PM
: >>.To: "bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"<bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
: >>.Subject: [bookport] Re: In defense of Double Talk
: >>.
: >>.It's not that simple. Canada does have similar provisions in its
: >>copyright
: >>.laws.
: >>.
: >>.Bruce
: >>.
: >>.--
: >>.Bruce Toews
: >>.Skype ID: o.canada
: >>.E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: DogRiver@xxxxxxxx
: >>.LiveJournal: http://brucetola.livejournal.com
: >>.Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net
: >>.Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net
: >>.Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com
: >>.
: >>.On Thu, 15 Mar 2007, William Stephan wrote:
: >>.
: >>.> Bookshare exists because of a provision in US copyright law. I guess
: >>if other nations built that sort of language into their copyright laws,
: >>Bookshare or a similar entity would be able to operate for the benefit of
: >>their citizens.
: >>.>
: >>.> -----Original Message-----
: >>.> .From: "Richard Ring"<richard.ring@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
: >>.> .Sent: 3/15/07 2:17:15 PM
: >>.> .To: "bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"<bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
: >>.> .Subject: [bookport] Re: In defense of Double Talk
: >>.> .
: >>.> .I completely agree with you, but I think it's going to have to be the
: >>.> .result of some kind of International Copyright agreement. (more stupid
: >>.> .politics)
: >>.> .
: >>.> .
: >>.> .-----Original Message-----
: >>.> .From: bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
: >>.> .[mailto:bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bruce Toews
: >>.> .Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 2:28 PM
: >>.> .To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
: >>.> .Subject: [bookport] Re: In defense of Double Talk
: >>.> .
: >>.> .All we need to do now is get Book Share available to non-Americans so
: >>we
: >>.> .can all read instead of being barred by politics.
: >>.> .
: >>.> .Bruce
: >>.> .On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 15:15:47 -0400, "Fred Wurtzel"
: >>.> .<f.wurtzel@xxxxxxxxxxx> said:
: >>.> .> Hello,
: >>.> .>
: >>.> .> I, also have a similar history. I started with a Texas Instruments
: >>.> .> TI-994a
: >>.> .> computer with speech then went to an Apple II plus. What we have
: >>now
: >>.> .is
: >>.> .> amazing and a blessing. The computer and Bookport along with
: >>.> .Bookshare
: >>.> .> is
: >>.> .> an unbelievable combination to provide access to printed material.
: >>I
: >>.> .> can't
: >>.> .> imagine what a difference this would have made for me in college in
: >>.> .the
: >>.> .> early 70's just after the invention of the cassette tape.
: >>.> .>
: >>.> .> -----Original Message-----
: >>.> .> From: bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
: >>.> .> [mailto:bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
: >>.> .> On Behalf Of Cy Selfridge
: >>.> .> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 2:50 PM
: >>.> .> To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
: >>.> .> Subject: [bookport] Re: In defense of Double Talk
: >>.> .>
: >>.> .> Hi folks,
: >>.> .> Well, I gues I'll throw in my couple of cents worth here.
: >>.> .> I concur with William and Crystal as I also have been around this
: >>.> .> synthetic
: >>.> .> speech game for a considerable amount of years.
: >>.> .> A long time ago about the only thing which talked was some of the
: >>DEC
: >>.> .> terminals which would hook up to some IBM mainframes. They did have
: >>.> .very
: >>.> .> good speech with a German accent and they also cost around $8,000.
: >>.> .> My wife and I were elated to find the Voltrax Type and Talk
: >>.> .synthesizer
: >>.> .> for
: >>.> .> the old Apple II+ because it was only $350 or so. While it was
: >>*very*
: >>.> .> limited it was better than nothing.
: >>.> .> Next I migrated up to an IBM compatible micro which was, I think, a
: >>.> .286
: >>.> .> processor with a fantastic speed of about 4Khz.
: >>.> .> On this wonderful piece of equipment I had a Symphonics 215 speech
: >>.> .board
: >>.> .> and
: >>.> .> it was, at best, miserable but it also was a lot better than
: >>nothing.
: >>.> .> What we have today with Eloquence, Double and Triple Talk along with
: >>.> .the
: >>.> .> SAPI voicesis a true blessing.
: >>.> .> I use the USB Triple Talk on my 3GHZ XP Home computer because I can
: >>.> .> listen
: >>.> .> to JAWS and music independently of each other. When I request a
: >>"Read
: >>.> .> All"
: >>.> .> command I get the new SAPI voice through the computer's speakers.
: >>Now,
: >>.> .> how
: >>.> .> can you complain about this?
: >>.> .> Cy, the Ancient Okie...
: >>.> .>
: >>.> .> -----Original Message-----
: >>.> .> From: bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
: >>.> .> [mailto:bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
: >>.> .> On Behalf Of William Stephan
: >>.> .> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 12:34 PM
: >>.> .> To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
: >>.> .> Subject: [bookport] Re: In defense of Double Talk
: >>.> .>
: >>.> .> Crystal's right!
: >>.> .>
: >>.> .> Some of us who've been doing this for a while can still remember
: >>when
: >>.> .> synthetic speech sounded about like someone reading through a kazoo.
: >>.> .>
: >>.> .> Since folks can apparently designate whatever speech engine they
: >>want
: >>.> .to
: >>.> .> use
: >>.> .> on a file-by-file basis, I'm not sure why which synthesizer is used
: >>is
: >>.> .> particularly significant in any case.
: >>.> .>
: >>.> .>
: >>.> .> -----Original Message-----
: >>.> .> .From: "Crystal French"<raincrow@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
: >>.> .> .Sent: 3/15/07 9:25:01 AM
: >>.> .> .To: "bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"<bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
: >>.> .> .Subject: [bookport] In defense of Double Talk .
: >>.> .> .For my two cents, I have no problem with Eloquence, or Double Talk.
: >>.> .> .
: >>.> .> .I have lived enough years to remember only too well a time when
: >>.> .access
: >>.> .> to
: >>.> .> .printed material was very limited.
: >>.> .> .
: >>.> .> .So, Eloquence and Double Talk sound like normal people to me.
: >>.> .> .
: >>.> .> .In fact, Perfect Paul and I have a very nice relationship, thank
: >>you
: >>.> .> very
: >>.> .> .much, and I am happy to hear that he will be continued in BP II.
: >>.> .> .
: >>.> .> .Crystal
: >>.> .> .
: >>.> .> .
: >>.> .> .
: >>.> .> .
: >>.> .>
: >>.> .>
: >>.> .> --
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: >>.> .>
: >>.> .
: >>.> .--
: >>.> .Bruce Toews
: >>.> .E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: dogriver@xxxxxxxx
: >>.> .Website: http://www.ogts.net
: >>.> .Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net
: >>.> .Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com
: >>.> .
: >>.> .
: >>.> .
: >>.>
: >>.>
: >>.>
: >>.
: >>.
: >>
: >>
: >>
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: >
: > Sandy Licht
: >
: > Jeremiah 29:11 - 14 A .
: > 11 For I know the plans I have for you," says the Lord. "They are plans
: > for good and not for disaster, to give you a future and a hope. 12 In
: > those days when you pray, I will listen. 13 If you look for me in earnest,
: > you will find me when you seek me. 14 I will be found by you," says the
: > Lord.
: >
: >
:
:
:
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