[bookport] Re: In defense of Double Talk
- From: "Richard Ring" <richard.ring@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 15:12:52 -0500
My personal opinion is that somehow officials from Canada and the United
states should sit down over a cup of tea or two and work something out
so that Canadians can use Bookshare as well as U.S. citizens.
Unfortunately, it isn't quite that simple. Bookshare was heavily
pressured by the publishers not to allow persons residing in countries
outside the U.S. To be able to participate in Bookshare. The initial
reason given was that copyright laws in some countries do not fully
protect the publishers. I tend to doubt that this would be the case
with countries like Canada, the United Kingdom, Australia, New Zealand,
France Spain and Germany to name a few.
-----Original Message-----
From: bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sandy Licht
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 12:06 AM
To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bookport] Re: In defense of Double Talk
How would Bruce know that? He is just one Canadian, after all.
At 09:32 AM 3/16/2007, William Stephan wrote:
>If that's the Case Bruce, why haven't you Canadians developped a
>service similar to Bookshare for yourselves?
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>.From: "Bruce Toews"<DogRiver@xxxxxxxx>
>.Sent: 3/15/07 4:17:28 PM
>.To: "bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"<bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>.Subject: [bookport] Re: In defense of Double Talk
>.
>.It's not that simple. Canada does have similar provisions in its
copyright
>.laws.
>.
>.Bruce
>.
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>.On Thu, 15 Mar 2007, William Stephan wrote:
>.
>.> Bookshare exists because of a provision in US copyright law. I
>guess if other nations built that sort of language into their
>copyright laws, Bookshare or a similar entity would be able to
>operate for the benefit of their citizens.
>.>
>.> -----Original Message-----
>.> .From: "Richard Ring"<richard.ring@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>.> .Sent: 3/15/07 2:17:15 PM
>.> .To: "bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"<bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>.> .Subject: [bookport] Re: In defense of Double Talk
>.> .
>.> .I completely agree with you, but I think it's going to have to be
the
>.> .result of some kind of International Copyright agreement. (more
stupid
>.> .politics)
>.> .
>.> .
>.> .-----Original Message-----
>.> .From: bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>.> .[mailto:bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bruce Toews
>.> .Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 2:28 PM
>.> .To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>.> .Subject: [bookport] Re: In defense of Double Talk
>.> .
>.> .All we need to do now is get Book Share available to non-Americans
so we
>.> .can all read instead of being barred by politics.
>.> .
>.> .Bruce
>.> .On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 15:15:47 -0400, "Fred Wurtzel"
>.> .<f.wurtzel@xxxxxxxxxxx> said:
>.> .> Hello,
>.> .>
>.> .> I, also have a similar history. I started with a Texas
Instruments
>.> .> TI-994a
>.> .> computer with speech then went to an Apple II plus. What we have
now
>.> .is
>.> .> amazing and a blessing. The computer and Bookport along with
>.> .Bookshare
>.> .> is
>.> .> an unbelievable combination to provide access to printed
material. I
>.> .> can't
>.> .> imagine what a difference this would have made for me in college
in
>.> .the
>.> .> early 70's just after the invention of the cassette tape.
>.> .>
>.> .> -----Original Message-----
>.> .> From: bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>.> .> [mailto:bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>.> .> On Behalf Of Cy Selfridge
>.> .> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 2:50 PM
>.> .> To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>.> .> Subject: [bookport] Re: In defense of Double Talk
>.> .>
>.> .> Hi folks,
>.> .> Well, I gues I'll throw in my couple of cents worth here.
>.> .> I concur with William and Crystal as I also have been around this
>.> .> synthetic
>.> .> speech game for a considerable amount of years.
>.> .> A long time ago about the only thing which talked was some of the
DEC
>.> .> terminals which would hook up to some IBM mainframes. They did
have
>.> .very
>.> .> good speech with a German accent and they also cost around
$8,000.
>.> .> My wife and I were elated to find the Voltrax Type and Talk
>.> .synthesizer
>.> .> for
>.> .> the old Apple II+ because it was only $350 or so. While it was
*very*
>.> .> limited it was better than nothing.
>.> .> Next I migrated up to an IBM compatible micro which was, I think,
a
>.> .286
>.> .> processor with a fantastic speed of about 4Khz.
>.> .> On this wonderful piece of equipment I had a Symphonics 215
speech
>.> .board
>.> .> and
>.> .> it was, at best, miserable but it also was a lot better than
nothing.
>.> .> What we have today with Eloquence, Double and Triple Talk along
with
>.> .the
>.> .> SAPI voicesis a true blessing.
>.> .> I use the USB Triple Talk on my 3GHZ XP Home computer because I
can
>.> .> listen
>.> .> to JAWS and music independently of each other. When I request a
"Read
>.> .> All"
>.> .> command I get the new SAPI voice through the computer's speakers.
Now,
>.> .> how
>.> .> can you complain about this?
>.> .> Cy, the Ancient Okie...
>.> .>
>.> .> -----Original Message-----
>.> .> From: bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>.> .> [mailto:bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>.> .> On Behalf Of William Stephan
>.> .> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 12:34 PM
>.> .> To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>.> .> Subject: [bookport] Re: In defense of Double Talk
>.> .>
>.> .> Crystal's right!
>.> .>
>.> .> Some of us who've been doing this for a while can still remember
when
>.> .> synthetic speech sounded about like someone reading through a
kazoo.
>.> .>
>.> .> Since folks can apparently designate whatever speech engine they
want
>.> .to
>.> .> use
>.> .> on a file-by-file basis, I'm not sure why which synthesizer is
used is
>.> .> particularly significant in any case.
>.> .>
>.> .>
>.> .> -----Original Message-----
>.> .> .From: "Crystal French"<raincrow@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>.> .> .Sent: 3/15/07 9:25:01 AM
>.> .> .To: "bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"<bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>.> .> .Subject: [bookport] In defense of Double Talk .
>.> .> .For my two cents, I have no problem with Eloquence, or Double
Talk.
>.> .> .
>.> .> .I have lived enough years to remember only too well a time when
>.> .access
>.> .> to
>.> .> .printed material was very limited.
>.> .> .
>.> .> .So, Eloquence and Double Talk sound like normal people to me.
>.> .> .
>.> .> .In fact, Perfect Paul and I have a very nice relationship, thank
you
>.> .> very
>.> .> .much, and I am happy to hear that he will be continued in BP II.
>.> .> .
>.> .> .Crystal
>.> .> .
>.> .> .
>.> .> .
>.> .> .
>.> .>
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>.> .Bruce Toews
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Sandy Licht
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