I sure hope that the recent, ongoing dust-up with regard to the D,E,F command has not soured APH staff from continuing their great input to this list. If so, I can certainly understand. It is probably the reason so few companies do participate in these sorts of discussions and we are all left out here hanging to figure it out on our own. It is really too bad these sorts of things seem to be elevated and perpetuated by a few. Most of you have at one time or another made a mistake -- even I once bought a pencil with an eraser. I would just hate for APH to take the position we can't afford to be held forever liable for one misstatement and therefore not ever say anything, other than what is cleared by the legal team. Thanks again to Larry, Pam, and Rob and the whole of APH for your service and continued work to make this product and this list a truly revolutionary thing to those of us who love information. Eric SS